Minutes Telecon 2013-05-15
- Resolved: Publish Last Call of CSS3 Fonts (next Thursday).
- Resolved: Split Exclusions and Shapes into separate modules.
- Republication of Multicol deferred until more issues can be resolved.
- Resolved: Publish new WD of CSS Filters.
- Resolved:
@counter-style width descriptor renamed to pad.
- Resolved: Decoration color is reflected in text-shadow
- Discussed dbaron’s issues wrt text-decoration positioning
- Resolved: calc() can be used inside media queries
- Discussed return value of
getComputedStyle() for grid layout properties.
- Discussed
an+b syntax redefinition in CSS3 Syntax.
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Minutes Telecon 2013-05-08
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Selectors Level 4 Updated
The CSS Working Group has published an updated Working Draft of Selectors Level 4. Selectors is a pattern-matching syntax for identifying sets of elements in a document, and is used e.g. for applying CSS declarations to elements in a document tree.
Additions include some new selectors: :blank for elements that are empty or contain only white space, and :placeholder-shown for inputs that are showing a placeholder. Review and improved naming suggestions are particularly welcome on these—and also on the drag and drop pseudos.
Another important change is lifting restrictions on :matches() and :not() to accept complex selectors, and the definition of two profiles, one for CSS matching and another for less performance-intensive uses like querySelector. We particularly encourage implementers to comment on whether this split is reasonable, or whether different things should be included/excluded.
The Working Draft includes a list of changes since the previous WD.
As always, please send feedback to the (archived) public mailing list www-style@w3.org with the spec code ([selectors]) and your comment topic in the subject line. (Alternatively, you can email one of the editors and ask them to forward your comment.)
Minutes Telecon 2013-05-01
- Resolved: Move existing Template Layout doc on TR to Note, and keep the ED.
- Tokyo F2F location moved from Mozilla office to Google office (same neighborhood).
- Resolved: Rebecca Hauck takes over CSSWG testing ownership from fantasai.
- Resolved: Paris F2F at Mozilla Sept 11-13
- Reviewed CSS3 Fonts issues
- Discussed issues with overflowing floats in multicol.
- Resolved: In grid, percentages work as per block layout, not as per table layout
- Resolved: auto margins specified on grid items override the
align-self property values, like they do in other layout modules such as flexbox (and also block)
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Minutes Telecon 2013-04-24
- Resolved: Publish WD of Selectors 4
- Discussed publishing Template Layout spec. Week to review.
- Discussed issue with
flow-into.
- Need info from fonts people wrt use of font metrics for alphabetic underline position.
- Resolved: Change text decoration z-ordering back to match 2.1
- Resolved: Repeat fixed-positioned elements on all pages, including blank pages generated by forced page breaks. Tweak the definition of
:blank to match.
- Case matching of fonts seems to be resolved, unless someone has concerns.
- Reviewed recent changes to CSS3 Box Alignment.
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CSS Grid Layout Overhaul
The CSS Working Group has published an updated Working Draft of CSS Grid Layout. This CSS module defines a two-dimensional grid-based layout system optimized for user interface design.
This is a major update: not only has the draft generally been reorganized and much of the prose rewritten to fill in missing details, avoid repetition, improve precision and terminology, and ensure alignment with Flexbox, but it’s switched to a new positioning model. The old grid layout model uses properties to indicate the starting row/column and the item’s span. The new grid layout model positions each edge of the item to a grid line.
There are tons of issues marked in the draft, such as:
- What to do by default with items that aren’t positioned?
- Best way to indicate that the contents of an element should align the parent grid?
- Better names for various properties?
- Better syntax for defining the size of the rows/columns?
We’re totally looking for feedback, particularly on syntax issues, so please send comments to the (archived) public mailing list www-style@w3.org with the spec code ([css-grid-layout]) and your comment topic in the subject line. (Alternatively, you can email one of the editors and ask them to forward your comment.)
Comments have also been enabled on the cross-post over at CSS3.info. We strongly encourage feedback and suggestions for improvement from the design community!
CSS3 Values and Units Updated
The CSS Working Group has published an updated Candidate Recommendation of CSS Values and Units Level 3. This CSS3 module describes the common values and units that CSS properties accept and the syntax used for describing them in CSS property definitions.
This is publication mainly just incorporates some minor fixes and clarifications. It also defines the interaction of scrollbars and viewport units. Changes since the last publication are listed in the Changes section.
As always, please send feedback to the (archived) public mailing list www-style@w3.org with the spec code (>>[css3-values]<<) and your comment topic in the subject line. (Alternatively, you can email one of the editors and ask them to forward your comment.)
Minutes Telecon 2013-04-17
- Discussed Colors Level 4, particularly whether the proposed syntax extensions are a good idea given existing implementations, and whether
color-correction is still needed.
- Resolved: Publish CSS Marquee as a NOTE with a note that says it is discontinued.
- Resolved: Scientific notations also allowed in percentages and dimensions.
- Resolved: Publish CSS3 UI as Last Call with added cursor values. Move
nav-* properties to level 4. Contact Web and TV and Opera about nav-* changes. Ask for comments from WAI PF and SVG and any groups we asked for previous Last Call.
- Discussed importing ICC profiles and Lab color additions to SVG2 into CSS4 Color.
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CSS Overflow Module Working Draft Published
The CSS Working Group has published a first public Working Draft of the CSS Overflow Module Level 3.
This module describes:
- the CSS ‘overflow’ property, as in previous levels of CSS,
- the new ‘overflow-x’ and ‘overflow-y’ properties and their interaction,
- (to be added here, but currently still in css-gcpm) a new feature that allows overflow to cause pagination
- a new feature that allows overflow to cause replication of the box, dividing the rendering of the element into fragments that can be styled separately.
This draft is still relatively early in development, but the group welcomes feedback on all aspects of the draft.
As always, please send feedback to the (archived) public mailing list www-style@w3.org with the spec code ([css-overflow-3]) and your comment topic in the subject line.
Minutes Telecon 2013-04-10
- Liam to add proposal for advanced line-breaking to CSS Text Level 4.
- Resolved: Cascading Variables moves to Last Call. Inform WebApps, SVG, HTML WGs.
- Resolved: Do not adopt MediaQueries-style invalidation for Selectors due to Web-compat concerns.
- Discussed allowing
#123abc to be a valid ID selector, to match HTML5. Need to collect data on this.
- Resolved:
:nth-child()/etc don’t require a parent: they’re based on siblings. This is a change from Selectors Level 3 REC.
- Resolved: Changed specificity of
:matches() to the specificity of the actual matched selector.
- Resolved: Define a new selector that matches element that is either completely empty or contains only whitespace. Note: Need naming suggestions.
- Resolved: Accept the proposal to have two profiles of Selectors, with “fast” for CSS Selectors and “complete” for Selectors API.
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