ISSUE-153: speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak

speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak

State:
CLOSED
Product:
CSS3 Speech
Raised by:
Elika Etemad
Opened on:
2011-01-11
Description:
The 'speak' property has two functions: one is to dual as the speech equivalent of 'visiblity', the other is to specify how to speak the contents of an element.

This creates unintentional problems with, e.g.

acronym {
speak: spell-out;
}

p.hide {
speak: none;
}

<p>Thing to hide <acronym>WOAH</acronym> more stuff to hide</p>

The WOAH is suddenly injected into the speech rendering due to the acronym rule, even though that is probably not what's intended. These functions should be separated into two properties, or the 'none' property removed entirely.

[ will send to www-style soon ]
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  1. Re: [CSS21] Issue 181 confusion over the height of inline-level boxes (from prowse@moonhenge.net on 2011-03-27)
  2. Re: [CSS21] Issue 181 confusion over the height of inline-level boxes (from bert@w3.org on 2011-03-25)
  3. Re: [css3-speech] ISSUE-153 speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak (from fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net on 2011-02-07)
  4. RE: [css3-speech] ISSUE-153 speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak (from Charles.Belov@sfmta.com on 2011-02-07)
  5. Re: [css3-speech] ISSUE-153 speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak (from daniel.weck@gmail.com on 2011-02-07)
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  19. RE: [css3-speech] ISSUE-153 speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak (from Charles.Belov@sfmta.com on 2011-01-24)
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  29. RE: [css3-speech] ISSUE-153 speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak (from Charles.Belov@sfmta.com on 2011-01-12)
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  32. CSS-ISSUE-153: speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak [CSS3 Speech] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2011-01-11)

Related notes:

Issue 180 remains:

http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/issues/180

Daniel Weck, 5 Apr 2011, 13:40:26

Changelog:

Created issue 'speak: none; usage incompatible with other values of speak' nickname owned by Elika Etemad on product CSS3 Speech, description 'The 'speak' property has two functions: one is to dual as the speech equivalent of 'visiblity', the other is to specify how to speak the contents of an element.

This creates unintentional problems with, e.g.

acronym {
speak: spell-out;
}

p.hide {
speak: none;
}

<p>Thing to hide <acronym>WOAH</acronym> more stuff to hide</p>

The WOAH is suddenly injected into the speech rendering due to the acronym rule, even though that is probably not what's intended. These functions should be separated into two properties, or the 'none' property removed entirely.

[ will send to www-style soon ]' non-public

Elika Etemad, 11 Jan 2011, 23:45:12

Status changed to 'closed'

Daniel Weck, 5 Apr 2011, 13:40:26


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