Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 28 March 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3
Seen
Bart van Leeuwen, Bernadette Hyland, Biplav Srivastava, Dave Reynolds, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, James McKinney, John Erickson, Makx Dekkers, Marios Meimaris, Michael Pendleton, Phil Archer, Richard Cyganiak, Sandro Hawke, Tina Gheen
Chair
Bernadette Hyland
Scribe
Fadi Maali
IRC Log
Original and Editable Wiki Version
Resolutions
  1. accept last week minutes link
Topics
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13:57:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:57:28 <trackbot> Date: 28 March 2013
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13:59:33 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

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13:59:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman

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14:00:52 <fadmaa> Zakim, aaaa is me

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14:01:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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14:01:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:01:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mhausenblas is cygri

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14:01:20 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

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14:01:21 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

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14:01:38 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130328
14:01:55 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:01:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, davidwood, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA

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14:02:03 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:02:13 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, davidwood is me

14:02:13 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

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14:03:19 <Zakim> +??P1

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14:03:24 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:03:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA, Sandro, ??P1

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14:03:25 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P1 is me

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14:03:29 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

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14:03:29 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

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14:03:40 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is Biplav

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aabb is Biplav

14:03:40 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it

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14:03:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:04:02 <PhilA> PhilA has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130328

Phil Archer: PhilA has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130328

14:04:10 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me.

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14:04:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:04:25 <bhyland> Scribe: Fadi

(Scribe set to Fadi Maali)

14:04:29 <bhyland> Chair: bhyland
14:04:29 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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14:04:35 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton

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14:04:38 <fadmaa> Scribe: fadmaa
14:05:07 <HadleyBeeman> Last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21

Hadley Beeman: Last week's minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21

14:05:21 <bhyland> Proposal to accept minutes from last week: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21

Bernadette Hyland: Proposal to accept minutes from last week: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-03-21

14:05:40 <fadmaa> bhyland: PROPOSAL: accept last week minutes

Bernadette Hyland: PROPOSAL: accept last week minutes

14:05:55 <fadmaa> bhyland: we discussed attribution during last week telco

Bernadette Hyland: we discussed attribution during last week telco

14:07:09 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:07:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:07:15 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:07:17 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1

14:07:18 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:07:19 <PhilA> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:07:37 <fadmaa> bhyland: RESOLUTION: accept the minutes

Bernadette Hyland: RESOLUTION: accept the minutes

14:08:13 <fadmaa> bhyland: I thank you all for the great outreach last week with regards to the vocabularies

Bernadette Hyland: I thank you all for the great outreach last week with regards to the vocabularies

14:08:47 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013Mar/

Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-comments/2013Mar/

14:09:02 <fadmaa> bhyland: there was a great discussion particularly about DCAT and thanks to cygri for addressing most of them

Bernadette Hyland: there was a great discussion particularly about DCAT and thanks to cygri for addressing most of them

14:09:23 <fadmaa> RESOLUTION: accept last week minutes

RESOLVED: accept last week minutes

14:09:43 <fadmaa> TOPIC: F2F meeting in Dublin

1. F2F meeting in Dublin

14:09:48 <bhyland> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F3
14:09:57 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have 10 confirmed people

Bernadette Hyland: we have 10 confirmed people

14:10:17 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers

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14:10:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: any thoughts regarding remote joining?

Bernadette Hyland: any thoughts regarding remote joining?

14:10:26 <Zakim> +[LC]

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14:10:29 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:10:35 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me

14:10:35 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

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14:10:38 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

14:11:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: normally there is no remote option in the W3C F2F meeting

DaveReyalways alds: always armally there is always a remote option in the W3C F2F meeting

14:11:20 <DaveReynolds> s/no/always a/
14:12:08 <DaveReynolds> ack me

Dave Reynolds: ack me

14:12:13 <olyerickson> yes I am...

John Erickson: yes I am...

14:12:19 <olyerickson> not going to Dublin

John Erickson: not going to Dublin

14:12:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:12:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, Biplav, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, Mike_Pendleton, MakxDekkers, tinagheen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see james, HadleyBeeman, bhyland, fadmaa (muted), cygri, PhilA, Sandro, BartvanLeeuwen, Biplav, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, Mike_Pendleton, MakxDekkers, tinagheen

14:13:03 <fadmaa> sandro: It'd help if we get a good Web cam for people joining remotely

Sandro Hawke: It'd help if we get a good Web cam for people joining remotely

14:13:18 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:13:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: we need someone to operate it though

Bernadette Hyland: we need someone to operate it though

14:13:26 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me

Marios Meimaris: zakim, IPcaller is me

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14:13:37 <MakxDekkers> I can bring my MiFi, but don't have an Irish SIM

Makx Dekkers: I can bring my MiFi, but don't have an Irish SIM

14:13:52 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have no meal sponsor... you are encouraged to do so

Bernadette Hyland: we have no meal sponsor... you are encouraged to do so

14:13:59 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:14:04 <fadmaa> bhyland: otherwise, we have to pay for our meals

Bernadette Hyland: otherwise, we have to pay for our meals

14:15:00 <fadmaa> cygri: the most important thing is to have time for discussing comments related to last call

Richard Cyganiak: the most important thing is to have time for discussing comments related to last call

14:15:29 <fadmaa> cygri: we have an hour slot reserved for each of the vocabulary

Richard Cyganiak: we have an hour slot reserved for each of the vocabulary

14:15:43 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:15:44 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to being flexible about the agenda.

Hadley Beeman: +1 to being flexible about the agenda.

14:16:01 <fadmaa> cygri: I'd encourage being flexible with the agenda to accomodate for potential comments we might get

Richard Cyganiak: I'd encourage being flexible with the agenda to accomodate for potential comments we might get

14:16:02 <HadleyBeeman> Especially because we don't know how many last call comments we will have, who will be able to participate.

Hadley Beeman: Especially because we don't know how many last call comments we will have, who will be able to participate.

14:16:10 <olyerickson> I can dial-in to the DCAT discussion

John Erickson: I can dial-in to the DCAT discussion

14:16:16 <fadmaa> bhyland: totally agree

Bernadette Hyland: totally agree

14:16:55 <olyerickson> I did not realize I was on the agenda (looking at URI section)

John Erickson: I did not realize I was on the agenda (looking at URI section)

14:16:58 <gatemezi> +1 to cygri point related to agenda flexibility and have more time for vocabs discussions

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to cygri point related to agenda flexibility and have more time for vocabs discussions

14:17:05 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:17:10 <fadmaa> bhyland: we might cancel the session dedicated to discussing licenses

Bernadette Hyland: we might cancel the session dedicated to discussing licenses

14:17:38 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:17:43 <bhyland> ack PhilA

Bernadette Hyland: ack PhilA

14:17:49 <fadmaa> bhyland: PhilA will be our W3C contact during the meeting

Bernadette Hyland: PhilA will be our W3C contact during the meeting

14:18:32 <PhilA> http://www.w3.org/2013/04/odw/agenda

Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2013/04/odw/agenda

14:18:56 <fadmaa> PhilA: regarding F2F agenda, there is an hour dedicated to the open data on the web workshop

Phil Archer: regarding F2F agenda, there is an hour dedicated to the open data on the web workshop

14:19:25 <fadmaa> PhilA: all people on this call is welcomed to join even if he/she has no paper there

Phil Archer: all people on this call is welcomed to join even if he/she has no paper there

14:19:39 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA, would you rather put a different title on the F2F session?

Hadley Beeman: PhilA, would you rather put a different title on the F2F session?

14:20:43 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

14:20:49 <fadmaa> bhyland: we might use this slot to also discuss the potential of a follow-up of this group

Bernadette Hyland: we might use this slot to also discuss the potential of a follow-up of this group

14:20:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> Sorry PhilA ;)

Bart van Leeuwen: Sorry PhilA ;)

14:21:09 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:21:41 <Biplav> q+

Biplav Srivastava: q+

14:21:51 <HadleyBeeman> ack dave

Hadley Beeman: ack dave

14:22:26 <DaveReynolds> ack me

Dave Reynolds: ack me

14:22:41 <HadleyBeeman> ack biplav

Hadley Beeman: ack biplav

14:22:43 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:23:37 <fadmaa> Biplav: a possible agenda topic, reserving a slot to reach-out for people other than the attendants

Biplav Srivastava: a possible agenda topic, reserving a slot to reach-out for people other than the attendants

14:23:50 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

14:23:50 <bhyland> Biplav: Suggested we have a considered, thoughtful outreach effort post-GLD WG ...

Biplav Srivastava: Suggested we have a considered, thoughtful outreach effort post-GLD WG ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:23:54 <fadmaa> Biplav: I mean people working on open governemtn catalogues

Biplav Srivastava: I mean people working on open government catalogues

14:23:58 <bhyland> … .e.g, Greece, Kenya, etc.

Bernadette Hyland: … .e.g, Greece, Kenya, etc.

14:24:16 <fadmaa> s/governemtn/government/
14:24:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

14:25:07 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:25:50 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:26:02 <fadmaa> Biplav: a half-time slot that people from outside the working group might join remotely (online)

Biplav Srivastava: a half-time slot that people from outside the working group might join remotely (online)

14:26:09 <bhyland> +1 to Biplav's idea but not sure how we'd do it logistically

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Biplav's idea but not sure how we'd do it logistically

14:26:32 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: very good idea I am a bit concerned that we might don't have time for that

Hadley Beeman: very good idea I am a bit concerned that we might don't have time for that

14:26:48 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: also we need their comments to arrive before the F2F

Hadley Beeman: also we need their comments to arrive before the F2F

14:27:33 <gatemezi> For the comments, we can also try to send them a mail via their public address

Ghislain Atemezing: For the comments, we can also try to send them a mail via their public address

14:27:40 <gatemezi> from their portal

Ghislain Atemezing: from their portal

14:28:01 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to bhyland to explore this… and possibly wrap into EDF presentation?

Hadley Beeman: +1 to bhyland to explore this… and possibly wrap into EDF presentation?

14:28:03 <bhyland> Biplav: There are risks, but there there benefits to present a polished presentation on the deliverables, to promote usage.

Biplav Srivastava: There are risks, but there there benefits to present a polished presentation on the deliverables, to promote usage. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:28:07 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have a speaking slot at EDF I can use a couple of minutes of the slot there

Bernadette Hyland: we have a speaking slot at EDF I can use a couple of minutes of the slot there

14:28:12 <HadleyBeeman> q-

Hadley Beeman: q-

14:28:53 <HadleyBeeman> Should we find some way to include the eGov IG in this outreach?

Hadley Beeman: Should we find some way to include the eGov IG in this outreach?

14:29:01 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: Biplav idea sounds good to me. I'd suggest to have some ready presentation that we can use to reach-out about the working group activities and products

Bart van Leeuwen: Biplav idea sounds good to me. I'd suggest to have some ready presentation that we can use to reach-out about the working group activities and products

14:29:24 <fadmaa> BartvanLeeuwen: we might work on that during the F2F meeting

Bart van Leeuwen: we might work on that during the F2F meeting

14:29:36 <bhyland> +1 to Bart's idea for a short deck that all members could use for future presentations.

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Bart's idea for a short deck that all members could use for future presentations.

14:30:25 <bhyland> Does anyone want to take this as an action item?  We have lots of content …. anyone feeling their inner marketing creativity?

Bernadette Hyland: Does anyone want to take this as an action item? We have lots of content …. anyone feeling their inner marketing creativity?

14:30:35 <fadmaa> cygri: outreach is definitely important. I am, though, concerned about taking time out of the F2F meeting for this

Richard Cyganiak: outreach is definitely important. I am, though, concerned about taking time out of the F2F meeting for this

14:31:41 <fadmaa> cygri: The F2F meeting is not necessarily the best time to work on preparing a presentation... using the time for discussing   and planning outreach activities sound better to me

Richard Cyganiak: The F2F meeting is not necessarily the best time to work on preparing a presentation... using the time for discussing and planning outreach activities sound better to me

14:32:21 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:32:26 <bhyland> ack Bart

Bernadette Hyland: ack Bart

14:32:32 <bhyland> ack cygri

Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri

14:32:38 <fadmaa> bhyland: I updated the agenda and dedicated a skot for the outreach

Bernadette Hyland: I updated the agenda and dedicated a skot for the outreach

14:32:48 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Linked Data Glossary

2. Linked Data Glossary

14:33:01 <fadmaa> bhyland: we have a short name approved.

Bernadette Hyland: we have a short name approved.

14:33:16 <fadmaa> bhyland: we seeked the feedback of a number of relevant experts

Bernadette Hyland: we seeked the feedback of a number of relevant experts

14:33:57 <fadmaa> bhyland: we are ready to getting it published as a note

Bernadette Hyland: we are ready to getting it published as a note

14:35:07 <olyerickson> Yes, jahendler is out for Passover

John Erickson: Yes, jahendler is out for Passover

14:35:19 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:35:24 <fadmaa> PhilA: we need to keep the upcoming holidays in mind with regards to the publication dates

Phil Archer: we need to keep the upcoming holidays in mind with regards to the publication dates

14:35:35 <fadmaa> TOPIC: DCAT

3. DCAT

14:35:38 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable

14:35:54 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

14:35:54 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

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14:36:31 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat

http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat

14:37:15 <olyerickson> How are we tracking and vetting these DCAT issues?

John Erickson: How are we tracking and vetting these DCAT issues?

14:37:45 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/TR has a much more strict process than http://www.w3.org/ns  (at the moment)

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/TR has a much more strict process than http://www.w3.org/ns (at the moment)

14:38:24 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/

14:38:46 <olyerickson> Wait, are "we" editing the LCWD?

John Erickson: Wait, are "we" editing the LCWD?

14:39:00 <fadmaa> http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl

http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl

14:39:01 <Zakim> -Biplav

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14:39:07 <olyerickson> ie making changes during LC?

John Erickson: ie making changes during LC?

14:39:44 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

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14:40:01 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

14:40:01 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted

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14:40:02 <olyerickson> Q+

John Erickson: Q+

14:40:21 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:40:27 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

14:40:27 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted

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14:40:42 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:40:58 <fadmaa> olyerickson: are we editing the last call working draft as we are getting the comments?

John Erickson: are we editing the last call working draft as we are getting the comments?

14:41:05 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

14:41:31 <PhilA> q+ to answer John

Phil Archer: q+ to answer John

14:41:39 <fadmaa> olyerickson: that might confuse people as they are asked to review the specification

John Erickson: that might confuse people as they are asked to review the specification

14:41:40 <olyerickson> ack

John Erickson: ack

14:41:50 <sandro> olyerickson, the WORKING DRAFT is NOT being changed.    I imagine the EDITORS DRAFT is being changed.

Sandro Hawke: olyerickson, the WORKING DRAFT is NOT being changed. I imagine the EDITORS DRAFT is being changed.

14:41:54 <fadmaa> bhyland: we need to respond to all the comments we are getting

Bernadette Hyland: we need to respond to all the comments we are getting

14:42:08 <olyerickson> sandro: okay...

Sandro Hawke: okay... [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ]

14:42:19 <cygri> q-

Richard Cyganiak: q-

14:42:20 <fadmaa> bhyland: and we need to edit the document when we have corrections to make

Bernadette Hyland: and we need to edit the document when we have corrections to make

14:42:28 <DaveReynolds> q-

Dave Reynolds: q-

14:42:36 <fadmaa> sandro: the editor draft can be edited but not the working draft

Sandro Hawke: the editor draft can be edited but not the working draft

14:42:52 <sandro> PhilA: The changes made need to be within a very limited bound.   Substantial changes will require another Last Call.

Phil Archer: The changes made need to be within a very limited bound. Substantial changes will require another Last Call. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:42:56 <fadmaa> sandro: editing the working draft needs group agreement

Sandro Hawke: editing the working draft needs group agreement

14:43:16 <sandro> PhilA: The changes can be editorial, no more.

Phil Archer: The changes can be editorial, no more. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:43:27 <fadmaa> PhilA: we can only make editorial changes to the last call working draft. major changes require re-going through the process

Phil Archer: we can only make editorial changes to the last call working draft. major changes require re-going through the process

14:43:54 <PhilA> q-

Phil Archer: q-

14:43:56 <sandro> PhilA: A subtantive change is something that would break an implementation.   A substantive change would require a second last call.

Phil Archer: A subtantive change is something that would break an implementation. A substantive change would require a second last call. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:43:58 <bhyland> Topic: Data Cube

4. Data Cube

14:44:00 <olyerickson> q-

John Erickson: q-

14:44:04 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable

14:44:22 <sandro> fadmaa, where/how are comments being tracked?

Sandro Hawke: fadmaa, where/how are comments being tracked?

14:44:28 <sandro> fadmaa, (if they are)

Sandro Hawke: fadmaa, (if they are)

14:44:35 <fadmaa> cygri: we are waiting for last call feedback

Richard Cyganiak: we are waiting for last call feedback

14:44:42 <bhyland> They should be tracked via public comments mailing list

Bernadette Hyland: They should be tracked via public comments mailing list

14:44:50 <fadmaa> cygri: so far there has been no comments received

Richard Cyganiak: so far there has been no comments received

14:45:03 <fadmaa> bhyland: how are we tracking the comments we get?

Bernadette Hyland: how are we tracking the comments we get?

14:45:15 <bhyland> Sandro: Disposition of comments

Sandro Hawke: Disposition of comments [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:45:39 <fadmaa> sandro: we need to create a page that list the coments we get and how we address them

Sandro Hawke: we need to create a page that list the coments we get and how we address them

14:45:39 <HadleyBeeman> Example disposition of comments http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/ElementTraversal/doc/

Hadley Beeman: Example disposition of comments http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/42538/ElementTraversal/doc/

14:46:40 <bhyland> Sandro: Some groups use a simple wiki or LC tracker.

Sandro Hawke: Some groups use a simple wiki or LC tracker. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:46:42 <fadmaa> sandro: groups can use a Wiki page or the LC comments tracker

Sandro Hawke: groups can use a Wiki page or the LC comments tracker

14:47:01 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:47:17 <fadmaa> bhyland: editors should be responsible of maintaining this?

Bernadette Hyland: editors should be responsible of maintaining this?

14:47:22 <bhyland> … Advise doing it along the way.

Bernadette Hyland: … Advise doing it along the way.

14:47:27 <fadmaa> sandro: either editors or the chairs can do this

Sandro Hawke: either editors or the chairs can do this

14:47:55 <DaveReynolds> For example see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_LC_comments for ORG. That will need cleaning up and checking before asking for a CR transition.

Dave Reynolds: For example see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_LC_comments for ORG. That will need cleaning up and checking before asking for a CR transition.

14:48:37 <bhyland> @Dave, thank you, good example.

Bernadette Hyland: @Dave, thank you, good example.

14:48:53 <fadmaa> cygri: we have a number of spec in the last call currently. Creating a list from the mailing archive we have is some manual work that needs to be done but I don't think it will be a lot of work

Richard Cyganiak: we have a number of spec in the last call currently. Creating a list from the mailing archive we have is some manual work that needs to be done but I don't think it will be a lot of work

14:48:59 <fadmaa> ... if we do it per spec.

... if we do it per spec.

14:49:06 <sandro> Here's a pretty wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments   or another http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

Sandro Hawke: Here's a pretty wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments or another http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments

14:49:27 <fadmaa> cygri: I think having the editors keeping track of that is a good idea

Richard Cyganiak: I think having the editors keeping track of that is a good idea

14:49:58 <sandro> "disposition of comments"

Sandro Hawke: "disposition of comments"

14:50:24 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: I will add a column "disposition of comments" to the summary table we have

Hadley Beeman: I will add a column "disposition of comments" to the summary table we have

14:50:47 <fadmaa> sandro: will we use WIKI or LC tracker?

Sandro Hawke: will we use WIKI or LC tracker?

14:50:48 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

14:50:53 <fadmaa> bhyland:

Bernadette Hyland:

14:51:07 <fadmaa> bhyland: let's leave it to the decision of the editors

Bernadette Hyland: let's leave it to the decision of the editors

14:51:14 <gatemezi> @hadleyBeeman: with a link to each comment section per spec?

Ghislain Atemezing: @hadleyBeeman: with a link to each comment section per spec?

14:51:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: this is only for the recommendation track

Bernadette Hyland: this is only for the recommendation track

14:51:51 <HadleyBeeman> @gatemezi: yes, a with a link to each comment. I'll create a holding page for comment tracking of each spec.

Hadley Beeman: @gatemezi: yes, a with a link to each comment. I'll create a holding page for comment tracking of each spec.

14:51:55 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:52:09 <bhyland> Topic: Org Vocab

5. Org Vocab

14:52:10 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Timetable

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ORG_Timetable

14:52:33 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we have only one comment which is not specifically related to ORG

Dave Reynolds: we have only one comment which is not specifically related to ORG

14:53:11 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I responded to it but don't consider that a direct comment to ORG

Dave Reynolds: I responded to it but don't consider that a direct comment to ORG

14:53:52 <fadmaa> PhilA: we need to respond to comments until the commentor is happy

Phil Archer: we need to respond to comments until the commentor is happy

14:53:56 <bhyland> Definition of what goes on the Disposition wiki page or tracker = Proof that comments were received, evaluated and replied to.  Replies don't always have to be in the affirmative.

Bernadette Hyland: Definition of what goes on the Disposition wiki page or tracker = Proof that comments were received, evaluated and replied to. Replies don't always have to be in the affirmative.

14:54:10 <fadmaa> PhilA: or we get no response. still good to send a reminder

Phil Archer: or we get no response. still good to send a reminder

14:54:23 <fadmaa> ... in case of no response

... in case of no response

14:55:05 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we have to respond to any comment that is clearly addressed at some last call draft

Dave Reynolds: we have to respond to any comment that is clearly addressed at some last call draft

14:55:49 <sandro> yay!

Sandro Hawke: yay!

14:55:52 <HadleyBeeman> :)

Hadley Beeman: :)

14:56:08 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: the provenance group informed us that they are happy with the reply we provided

Dave Reynolds: the provenance group informed us that they are happy with the reply we provided

14:56:12 <sandro> DaveReynolds: PROV WG is happy with our responses with their reviews.

Dave Reynolds: PROV WG is happy with our responses with their reviews. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:56:13 <bhyland> Issue-55, issue-56, issue-57 can all be closed.

Bernadette Hyland: ISSUE-55, ISSUE-56, ISSUE-57 can all be closed.

14:56:19 <sandro> issue-55?

Sandro Hawke: ISSUE-55?

14:56:19 <trackbot> ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- pending review

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-55 -- Use of prov:wasDerivedFrom -- pending review

14:56:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/55

14:56:23 <sandro> issue-56?

Sandro Hawke: ISSUE-56?

14:56:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Check PROV semantic constraints -- pending review

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-56 -- Check PROV semantic constraints -- pending review

14:56:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/56

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/56

14:56:26 <sandro> issue-57?

Sandro Hawke: ISSUE-57?

14:56:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-57 -- PROV use of invalidation -- pending review

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-57 -- PROV use of invalidation -- pending review

14:56:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/57

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/57

14:56:33 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: we can now close the issues 55, 56 and 57

Dave Reynolds: we can now close the issues 55, 56 and 57

14:56:35 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

14:56:43 <bhyland> Topic: Community Directory

6. Community Directory

14:56:44 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/File:W3C_Community_Directory_Workflow-status_update_20130328.pdf

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/File:W3C_Community_Directory_Workflow-status_update_20130328.pdf

14:56:46 <DaveReynolds> q-

Dave Reynolds: q-

14:57:26 <fadmaa> bhyland: we worked on streamlining the workflow re. community directory

Bernadette Hyland: we worked on streamlining the workflow re. community directory

14:57:40 <fadmaa> bhyland: have a look at the updated document

Bernadette Hyland: have a look at the updated document

14:58:13 <fadmaa> bhyland: creating an entry now is an asynchronous process

Bernadette Hyland: creating an entry now is an asynchronous process

14:58:36 <fadmaa> bhyland: in response to registering an entry we provide RDF (we used the ORG ontology also)

Bernadette Hyland: in response to registering an entry we provide RDF (we used the ORG ontology also)

14:59:00 <fadmaa> ... the web master can then paste the resulting RDF

... the web master can then paste the resulting RDF

14:59:37 <fadmaa> ... after that, the location of the published RDF needs to be provided to our system

... after that, the location of the published RDF needs to be provided to our system

14:59:38 <sandro> I wonder about using a .well-known location, so one just needs the domain name?     Or about embedding it in the / document

Sandro Hawke: I wonder about using a .well-known location, so one just needs the domain name? Or about embedding it in the / document

14:59:57 <fadmaa> ... the user interface of the directory has been significantly improved

... the user interface of the directory has been significantly improved

15:00:37 <sandro> +1 willing to try

Sandro Hawke: +1 willing to try

15:00:42 <fadmaa> bhyland: people on this call are encouraged to test it

Bernadette Hyland: people on this call are encouraged to test it

15:00:54 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:01:13 <fadmaa> ... they need to be able to put a turtle file one the Web

... they need to be able to put a turtle file one the Web

15:01:25 <PhilA> I can give it a whirl although I don't think I'm really the target for the Dir but yes, I have write access to philarcher.org

Phil Archer: I can give it a whirl although I don't think I'm really the target for the Dir but yes, I have write access to philarcher.org

15:01:32 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:01:38 <bhyland> ack cygri

Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri

15:02:02 <DaveReynolds> q+

Dave Reynolds: q+

15:02:42 <sandro> Is it okay too put the w3c one at http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/ ... ?

Sandro Hawke: Is it okay too put the w3c one at http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/ ... ?

15:02:43 <bhyland> Sandro: The dir.ttl Turtle file can be put in your staff or personal area.

Sandro Hawke: The dir.ttl Turtle file can be put in your staff or personal area. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:02:49 <sandro> bhyland: yes

Bernadette Hyland: yes [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:04:15 <HadleyBeeman> If we have personal information, might there be Data Protection issues in moving data from one databases to another?

Hadley Beeman: If we have personal information, might there be Data Protection issues in moving data from one databases to another?

15:04:31 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:04:34 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

15:04:36 <DaveReynolds> q-

Dave Reynolds: q-

15:04:37 <bhyland> ack sandro

Bernadette Hyland: ack sandro

15:05:03 <gatemezi> I guess we have info that are public

Ghislain Atemezing: I guess we have info that are public

15:05:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> cya

Bart van Leeuwen: cya

15:05:26 <gatemezi> office tel, address, etc..

Ghislain Atemezing: office tel, address, etc..

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15:05:58 <bhyland> Thanks everyone, sorry for the moving that telecon so fast, we had a lot to cover.

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15:05:59 <Zakim> Attendees were james, HadleyBeeman, +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, cygri, PhilA, Sandro, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.67.84.aabb, Biplav, olyerickson, DaveReynolds, Mike_Pendleton,

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15:06:04 <bhyland> Thanks Fadi for scribing!!

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