Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 06 October 2011

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.06
Seen
Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Biplav Srivastava, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Christophe Gueret, George Thomas, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, John Sheridan, John Erickson, Richard Cyganiak, Sandro Hawke, Stasinos Konstantopoulos, Unknown MikePendleton, Unknown bkaempgen.a, Yigal Arens, Zachary Whitley
Chair
George Thomas
Scribe
John Erickson
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Original and Editable Wiki Version
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13:28:53 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-irc

13:28:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world

13:28:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD

13:28:57 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

13:28:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:28:58 <trackbot> Date: 06 October 2011
13:29:25 <olyerickson> scribe: olyerickson

(Scribe set to John Erickson)

13:29:43 <olyerickson> chair: george
13:29:59 <olyerickson> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.06
13:30:50 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Pre-meeting chat...

1. Pre-meeting chat...

13:33:31 <olyerickson> Zakim, what's the code?

Zakim, what's the code?

13:33:31 <Zakim> sorry, olyerickson, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, olyerickson, I don't know what conference this is

13:34:16 <olyerickson> zakim, this is GLDWG

zakim, this is GLDWG

13:34:16 <Zakim> olyerickson, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be GLDWG".

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be GLDWG".

13:35:08 <olyerickson> Zakim, this will be GLDWG

Zakim, this will be GLDWG

13:35:08 <Zakim> ok, olyerickson; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 25 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, olyerickson; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 25 minutes

13:35:23 <olyerickson> Zakim, thank you

Zakim, thank you

13:35:23 <Zakim> you are very welcome, olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: you are very welcome, olyerickson

13:35:52 <olyerickson> Zakim, do you have any easter eggs?

Zakim, do you have any easter eggs?

13:35:52 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, olyerickson.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, olyerickson.

13:36:02 <olyerickson> Zakim, I'm sorry

Zakim, I'm sorry

13:36:02 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I'm sorry', olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I'm sorry', olyerickson

13:51:06 <olyerickson> Zakim, who is here?

(No events recorded for 15 minutes)

Zakim, who is here?

13:51:06 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has not yet started, olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has not yet started, olyerickson

13:51:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, olyerickson, MacTed, csarven, cygri, bhyland, danbri, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, olyerickson, MacTed, csarven, cygri, bhyland, danbri, trackbot, sandro

13:55:58 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started

13:55:59 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

13:56:16 <Zakim> +George_Thomas

Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Thomas

13:56:17 <Zakim> -George_Thomas

Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas

13:56:17 <Zakim> +George_Thomas

Zakim IRC Bot: +George_Thomas

13:56:54 <olyerickson> i'll dial in arrgghhhh

i'll dial in arrgghhhh

13:58:21 <Zakim> + +1.802.649.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.802.649.aaaa

13:58:35 <olyerickson> zakim, +1.802.649.aaaa is olyerickson

zakim, +1.802.649.aaaa is olyerickson

13:58:35 <Zakim> + +49.721.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aabb

13:58:35 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it

13:58:41 <Zakim> + +1.240.228.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.240.228.aacc

13:58:55 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here?

13:58:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, +49.721.aabb, +1.240.228.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, +49.721.aabb, +1.240.228.aacc

13:58:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see boris, MikePendleton, BartvanLeeuwen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, George, bkaempgen, HadleyBeeman, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, danbri,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see boris, MikePendleton, BartvanLeeuwen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, George, bkaempgen, HadleyBeeman, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, danbri,

13:59:03 <Zakim> ... trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, sandro

13:59:07 <Zakim> +davidwood

Zakim IRC Bot: +davidwood

13:59:21 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

13:59:21 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?

Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, pointer?

13:59:21 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-irc#T13-59-21-1

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-irc#T13-59-21-1

13:59:28 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, davidwood is me

13:59:29 <Zakim> +boris

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris

13:59:35 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it

13:59:35 <bkaempgen> zakim, aabb is bkaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aabb is bkaempgen

13:59:41 <Zakim> +bkaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bkaempgen; got it

13:59:41 <ZacharyWhitley> zakim, aacc is me

Zachary Whitley: zakim, aacc is me

13:59:45 <Zakim> +??P17

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17

13:59:51 <Zakim> +ZacharyWhitley; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ZacharyWhitley; got it

13:59:52 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking?

14:00:05 <stasinos> Zakim, P17 is stasinos

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: Zakim, P17 is stasinos

14:00:15 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

14:00:19 <Zakim> sorry, stasinos, I do not recognize a party named 'P17'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, stasinos, I do not recognize a party named 'P17'

14:00:22 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/  -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.06

Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.06

14:00:27 <stasinos> zakim, ??P17 is stasinos

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: zakim, ??P17 is stasinos

14:00:36 <Zakim> +stasinos; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +stasinos; got it

14:00:37 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aadd

14:00:39 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

14:00:50 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p19 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p19 is me

14:00:51 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

14:01:23 <Zakim> + +91.80.49.06.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.80.49.06.aaee

14:01:32 <Zakim> + +44.776.871.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.776.871.aaff

14:01:35 <MikePendleton> zakim, qw3 is me

Scribe problem: the name 'MikePendleton' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'MikePendleton' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown MikePendleton: zakim, qw3 is me

14:01:35 <Zakim> sorry, MikePendleton, I do not recognize a party named 'qw3'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, MikePendleton, I do not recognize a party named 'qw3'

14:01:48 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aagg

14:01:52 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaff is me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, aaff is me

14:01:52 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it

14:01:55 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute me

14:01:55 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman should now be muted

14:02:05 <Zakim> + +1.703.362.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.362.aahh

14:02:28 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Chair ha started the meeting

2. Chair ha started the meeting

14:02:59 <olyerickson> TOPIC: New Members Introduction

3. New Members Introduction

14:03:04 <bhyland> For new participants, welcome.  Please see http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663 to connect names, faces and affiliations.

Bernadette Hyland: For new participants, welcome. Please see http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663 to connect names, faces and affiliations.

14:03:12 <stasinos> q+

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: q+

14:03:21 <olyerickson> ?? from IBM Research (India)

?? from IBM Research (India)

14:03:40 <bhyland> That is Biplav Srivastava, IBM Corp.

Bernadette Hyland: That is Biplav Srivastava, IBM Corp.

14:04:18 <Zakim> + +1.323.683.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.323.683.aaii

14:04:19 <stasinos> Stasinos Konstantopoulos

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: Stasinos Konstantopoulos

14:04:24 <stasinos> NCSR "Demokritos"

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: NCSR "Demokritos"

14:04:33 <Zakim> +cygri_

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri_

14:04:35 <gatemezi> hi all

Ghislain Atemezing: hi all

14:04:37 <Yigal> zakim, +1.323.6833.aaii is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, +1.323.6833.aaii is me

14:04:37 <Zakim> sorry, Yigal, I do not recognize a party named '+1.323.6833.aaii'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Yigal, I do not recognize a party named '+1.323.6833.aaii'

14:04:40 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's talking?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who's talking?

14:04:46 <cygri> zakim, cygri_ is me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, cygri_ is me

14:04:46 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

14:04:47 <George> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:04:51 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 17 (20%), +1.757.604.aagg (28%), George_Thomas (34%), boris (3%)

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 17 (20%), +1.757.604.aagg (28%), George_Thomas (34%), boris (3%)

14:04:52 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is here?

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, who is here?

14:04:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, HadleyBeeman

14:04:58 <Zakim> ... (muted), +1.757.604.aagg, +1.703.362.aahh, +1.323.683.aaii, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), +1.757.604.aagg, +1.703.362.aahh, +1.323.683.aaii, cygri

14:05:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, GeraldSteeman, George, Yigal, cygri, boris, MikePendleton, BartvanLeeuwen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, bkaempgen, HadleyBeeman, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, GeraldSteeman, George, Yigal, cygri, boris, MikePendleton, BartvanLeeuwen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, bkaempgen, HadleyBeeman, Zakim, RRSAgent, olyerickson,

14:05:04 <Zakim> ... MacTed, bhyland, danbri, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... MacTed, bhyland, danbri, trackbot, sandro

14:05:11 <olyerickson> stasinos -> background in formal semantics

stasinos -> background in formal semantics

14:05:26 <bhyland> I encourage all new participants to update the Participants page so we correctly reflect your name in the minutes :-) http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663

Bernadette Hyland: I encourage all new participants to update the Participants page so we correctly reflect your name in the minutes :-) http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663

14:06:02 <olyerickson> Note to all members: please update your W3C profile photos for upcoming f2f meetings

Note to all members: please update your W3C profile photos for upcoming f2f meetings

14:06:14 <Zakim> +??P53

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P53

14:06:14 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Review of 9-29-2011 minutes

4. Review of 9-29-2011 minutes

14:06:19 <Zakim> - +1.703.362.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.362.aahh

14:06:22 <George> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-09-29

George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-09-29

14:06:33 <Zakim> + +1.703.362.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.362.aajj

14:06:36 <stasinos> +1

Stasinos Konstantopoulos: +1

14:06:43 <olyerickson> Proposed: Accept mintes

PROPOSED: Accept mintes

14:06:46 <bhyland> If for any reason you aren't on the page (which is updated by W3C staff), please email GLD Chairs <team-gld-chairs@w3.org> which reaches Sandro Hawke (W3C), George and me (the co-chairs).  TIA.

Bernadette Hyland: If for any reason you aren't on the page (which is updated by W3C staff), please email GLD Chairs <team-gld-chairs@w3.org> which reaches Sandro Hawke (W3C), George and me (the co-chairs). TIA.

14:06:55 <Yigal> +1

Yigal Arens: +1

14:06:58 <olyerickson> +1

+1

14:07:06 <Zakim> +??P55

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P55

14:07:15 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:07:18 <olyerickson> Accept Minutes (no objections)

Accept Minutes (no objections)

14:07:37 <Yigal> zakim, aaii is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, aaii is me

14:07:37 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

14:07:41 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Review of Charter Deliverables

5. Review of Charter Deliverables

14:07:55 <olyerickson> SUBTOPIC: Community Directory (bhyland)

5.1. Community Directory (bhyland)

14:08:27 <Zakim> - +1.703.362.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.362.aajj

14:08:32 <olyerickson> * w3c membership not required to add info

* w3c membership not required to add info

14:08:42 <olyerickson> * commDir app in "beta"

* commDir app in "beta"

14:08:52 <HadleyBeeman> zakin, who is talking?

Hadley Beeman: zakin, who is talking?

14:09:08 <olyerickson> * login req'd; contact 3roundstones via link to get access

* login req'd; contact 3roundstones via link to get access

14:09:13 <bhyland> directory.3roundstones.net

Bernadette Hyland: directory.3roundstones.net

14:09:36 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:09:43 <olyerickson> * contact bhyland if clarification of interface req'd

* contact bhyland if clarification of interface req'd

14:09:43 <George_> ack stasinos

George Thomas: ack stasinos

14:09:49 <Zakim> + +1.703.362.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.362.aakk

14:10:02 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

14:10:06 <olyerickson> * please use it and provide feedback

* please use it and provide feedback

14:10:23 <olyerickson> * release of this beta marks delivery of 1st deliverable

* release of this beta marks delivery of 1st deliverable

14:10:29 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

14:10:59 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:11:17 <Zakim> - +1.703.362.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.362.aakk

14:11:21 <olyerickson> * sandro suggests, opening it up to everyone in group. +1 from bhyland

* sandro suggests, opening it up to everyone in group. +1 from bhyland

14:12:03 <olyerickson> * gt: effort to 'converge' eGov and GLD effort

* gt: effort to 'converge' eGov and GLD effort

14:12:09 <bhyland> The only organizations who *have* added their info are: DERI, Mondeca, OEG, Ontotext, TopQuadrant, US EPA and US HHS … there are about 34 more organizations in this working group.  I'll send login details to members by the end of the week per Sandro's suggestion.

Bernadette Hyland: The only organizations who *have* added their info are: DERI, Mondeca, OEG, Ontotext, TopQuadrant, US EPA and US HHS … there are about 34 more organizations in this working group. I'll send login details to members by the end of the week per Sandro's suggestion.

14:12:48 <bhyland> Make that 31 other orgs in the WG.

Bernadette Hyland: Make that 31 other orgs in the WG.

14:13:20 <olyerickson> SUBTOPIC: Best Practices Discussion

5.2. Best Practices Discussion

14:13:50 <olyerickson> bhyland: lots of people, Michael has been busy (RD2RDF)

Bernadette Hyland: lots of people, Michael has been busy (RD2RDF)

14:13:54 <olyerickson> q+

q+

14:14:22 <olyerickson> bhyland has action item to talk to john goodwin

bhyland has action item to talk to john goodwin

14:14:35 <olyerickson> SUBTOPIC: Tracker's items

5.3. Tracker's items

14:14:46 <olyerickson> Action 10

ACTION-10

14:14:46 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

14:14:46 <sandro> action-10?

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-10?

14:14:46 <trackbot> ACTION-10 -- Christophe Gueret to talk with Paul about provenance -- due 2011-09-29 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 -- Christophe Gueret to talk with Paul about provenance -- due 2011-09-29 -- OPEN

14:14:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/10

14:15:08 <olyerickson> Action-9?

ACTION-9?

14:15:08 <trackbot> ACTION-9 -- John Erickson to plug in "seed" content re: pragmatic provenance into the Best Practices wiki -- due 2011-09-29 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-9 -- John Erickson to plug in "seed" content re: pragmatic provenance into the Best Practices wiki -- due 2011-09-29 -- OPEN

14:15:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/9

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/9

14:15:55 <bhyland> Correction: Michael Hausenblas has been busy on R2RML and Direct Mapping which published as Last Call, http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2011/09/20/last-call-r2rml-and-a-direct-mapping-of-relational-data-to-rdf/

Scribe problem: the name 'Correction' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Correction: Michael Hausenblas has been busy on R2RML and Direct Mapping which published as Last Call, http://www.w3.org/blog/SW/2011/09/20/last-call-r2rml-and-a-direct-mapping-of-relational-data-to-rdf/ [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:15:55 <bhyland> Congrats to Michael for that work … so he got a "pass" on GLD WG Best Practices work (so what is my excuse?!)

Bernadette Hyland: Congrats to Michael for that work … so he got a "pass" on GLD WG Best Practices work (so what is my excuse?!)

14:16:03 <olyerickson> olyerickson has not done anything on Action-9

olyerickson has not done anything on ACTION-9

14:16:51 <olyerickson> George's Action...

George's Action...

14:17:03 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:17:04 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Charter Item 2.3 (George)

6. Charter Item 2.3 (George)

14:17:07 <olyerickson> q-

q-

14:17:13 <George_> ack sandro

George Thomas: ack sandro

14:17:13 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

14:17:30 <bhyland> Subtopic: Community Directory, main page is here, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

6.1. Community Directory, main page is here, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary

14:18:03 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Standard Vocabulary Discussion

7. Standard Vocabulary Discussion

14:18:08 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

14:18:26 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on call?

14:18:26 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland.

14:18:37 <Zakim> + +1.703.362.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.362.aall

14:18:41 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on THE call?

zakim, who is on THE call?

14:18:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, HadleyBeeman

14:18:44 <Zakim> ... (muted), +1.757.604.aagg, Yigal, cygri, ??P53, ??P55, +1.703.362.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), +1.757.604.aagg, Yigal, cygri, ??P53, ??P55, +1.703.362.aall

14:18:52 <cgueret_home> hi

Christophe Gueret: hi

14:19:12 <olyerickson> cygri: skos extensions and DDI (??) discussion

Richard Cyganiak: skos extensions and DDI (??) discussion

14:19:18 <George_> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ISO_Extensions_to_SKOS

George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ISO_Extensions_to_SKOS

14:19:35 <olyerickson> * DDI -> std used in social sciences etc for data collection

* DDI -> std used in social sciences etc for data collection

14:19:51 <olyerickson> * how to represent classfications systems in RDF

* how to represent classfications systems in RDF

14:20:16 <olyerickson> * some concerns re: expressivity of SKOS

* some concerns re: expressivity of SKOS

14:20:44 <ZacharyWhitley> DDI = Data Documentation Initiative

Zachary Whitley: DDI = Data Documentation Initiative

14:21:15 <olyerickson> * example: some specification systems require multiple "levels" : sectors, sub-sectors, etc; other similar examples

* example: some specification systems require multiple "levels" : sectors, sub-sectors, etc; other similar examples

14:21:37 <olyerickson> * group looked at properties/classes that could me added to skos to capure this info

* group looked at properties/classes that could me added to skos to capure this info

14:22:00 <olyerickson> * group came up with small number of things that, if added, would allow SKOS to capture a large number of things

* group came up with small number of things that, if added, would allow SKOS to capture a large number of things

14:22:00 <George_> http://www.ddialliance.org/

George Thomas: http://www.ddialliance.org/

14:22:09 <George_> http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=20057

George Thomas: http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=20057

14:22:58 <George_> the turtle file is visible here - http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ISO_Extensions_to_SKOS

George Thomas: the turtle file is visible here - http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ISO_Extensions_to_SKOS

14:23:02 <olyerickson> * created: short report, TTL file with extensions (not published), currently email discussions on how to proceed

* created: short report, TTL file with extensions (not published), currently email discussions on how to proceed

14:23:36 <olyerickson> * effect would be: publishers and maintainers of high-end classification systems would be willing to publish in RDF

* effect would be: publishers and maintainers of high-end classification systems would be willing to publish in RDF

14:23:41 <bkaempgen> +q

Benedikt Kaempgen: +q

14:24:15 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:24:38 <George_> ack bkaempgen

George Thomas: ack bkaempgen

14:25:07 <olyerickson> george -> actual proposed TTL is above ("ISO_Extensions...")

george -> actual proposed TTL is above ("ISO_Extensions...")

14:25:26 <olyerickson> Q: What list is discussionon A: it's currently "private"

Scribe problem: the name 'Q' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Q: What list is discussionon A: it's currently "private"

14:26:02 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:26:11 <olyerickson> ?? is working with MS student on related problem, would be useful to participate

?? is working with MS student on related problem, would be useful to participate

14:26:24 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

14:26:45 <olyerickson> ??+1 notes that some of this discussion will be happening on "Open Gov Vocab Mailing List"

??+1 notes that some of this discussion will be happening on "Open Gov Vocab Mailing List"

14:27:34 <olyerickson> ?? is Benedict (nick???)

?? is Benedict (nick???)

14:27:46 <olyerickson> ??+1 is Cory (nick????)

??+1 is Cory (nick????)

14:27:48 <bhyland> NB: The Open Gov Vocab mailing list of which you speak is a US only effort.  I encourage broadening to the GLD WG if appropriate.

Scribe problem: the name 'NB' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown NB: The Open Gov Vocab mailing list of which you speak is a US only effort. I encourage broadening to the GLD WG if appropriate. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:27:59 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on call?

14:27:59 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland.

14:28:06 <bhyland> zakim, who is on THE call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on THE call?

14:28:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, HadleyBeeman

14:28:10 <Zakim> ... (muted), +1.757.604.aagg, Yigal, cygri, ??P53, ??P55, +1.703.362.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), +1.757.604.aagg, Yigal, cygri, ??P53, ??P55, +1.703.362.aall

14:28:20 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:28:20 <bkaempgen> bkaempgen is Benedikt

Benedikt Kaempgen: bkaempgen is Benedikt

14:28:43 <bkaempgen> +q

Benedikt Kaempgen: +q

14:28:56 <olyerickson> cygri: concern, will cuirrent ad hoc discussion participants need to sign up to a particular list?

Richard Cyganiak: concern, will cuirrent ad hoc discussion participants need to sign up to a particular list?

14:28:58 <bhyland> Would the caller from Washington DC (aadd) and country code +91 please tell zakim who you are.  TIA

Bernadette Hyland: Would the caller from Washington DC (aadd) and country code +91 please tell zakim who you are. TIA

14:29:04 <olyerickson> * protecting inb0xes

* protecting inb0xes

14:29:15 <bhyland> q-

Bernadette Hyland: q-

14:29:26 <bkaempgen> maybe discuss on publishing-statistical-data@googlegroups.com ?

Benedikt Kaempgen: maybe discuss on publishing-statistical-data@googlegroups.com ?

14:29:51 <Biplav> +91 => Biplav (India's country code); Sorry for slippery fingers with RC chat software.

Biplav Srivastava: +91 => Biplav (India's country code); Sorry for slippery fingers with RC chat software.

14:29:54 <olyerickson> cygri: Q: how to delineate between "GLD WG stuff" and other stuff

Richard Cyganiak: Q: how to delineate between "GLD WG stuff" and other stuff

14:30:21 <bhyland> zakim, aaee is biplav

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaee is biplav

14:30:21 <Zakim> +biplav; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +biplav; got it

14:30:26 <bkaempgen> q-

Benedikt Kaempgen: q-

14:30:32 <olyerickson> Suggestion: Use Usenet principles: if it becomes noise, create a new list...

Scribe problem: the name 'Suggestion' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Suggestion: Use Usenet principles: if it becomes noise, create a new list...

14:31:04 <olyerickson> Could the people having the party please mute???

Could the people having the party please mute???

14:31:14 <olyerickson> George: look at "vacbulary page"

George Thomas: look at "vacbulary page"

14:31:17 <bhyland> zakim,, who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim,, who is speaking?

14:31:17 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland.

14:31:23 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is speaking?

14:31:33 <olyerickson> * what is the "list of things" that should be on the vocab list

* what is the "list of things" that should be on the vocab list

14:31:34 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George_Thomas (93%), olyerickson (52%), ??P53 (23%)

Zakim IRC Bot: bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George_Thomas (93%), olyerickson (52%), ??P53 (23%)

14:31:54 <olyerickson> POINT OF ORDER: George,are you looking ast a page?

POINT OF ORDER: George,are you looking ast a page?

14:32:27 <olyerickson> George is looking at: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

George is looking at: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

14:32:28 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

14:32:29 <bhyland> We are talking about http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

Bernadette Hyland: We are talking about http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

14:32:46 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:33:00 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q

14:33:35 <olyerickson> Volunteers to discuss Vocabs on http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

Volunteers to discuss Vocabs on http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

14:34:26 <olyerickson> Q (bhyland): How to add?

Q (bhyland): How to add?

14:34:45 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:34:48 <olyerickson> A (George): Now, edit via wiki (for now)

A (George): Now, edit via wiki (for now)

14:34:58 <olyerickson> -1 to spec writing tools

-1 to spec writing tools

14:35:15 <olyerickson> hg is an epic fail in certain other WGs

hg is an epic fail in certain other WGs

14:35:35 <olyerickson> 1 to Wiki unil we have issues

1 to Wiki unil we have issues

14:35:52 <olyerickson> ;)

;)

14:35:59 <Biplav> I have a question - is "data retention" terms relevant for Vocabularies? Tax data, health records.

Biplav Srivastava: I have a question - is "data retention" terms relevant for Vocabularies? Tax data, health records.

14:36:23 <olyerickson> Missing from current list of Vocab: Provenance...

Missing from current list of Vocab: Provenance...

14:36:37 <olyerickson> zakim, who is speaking?

zakim, who is speaking?

14:36:47 <Zakim> olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George_Thomas (4%), BartvanLeeuwen (65%), ??P53 (44%)

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George_Thomas (4%), BartvanLeeuwen (65%), ??P53 (44%)

14:37:07 <olyerickson> BartvanLeeuwen: how to express events in tiome

Bart van Leeuwen: how to express events in tiome

14:37:32 <olyerickson> BartvanLeeuwen will edit wiki himself

BartvanLeeuwen will edit wiki himself

14:37:45 <John> happy to update GeoSpatial section

John Sheridan: happy to update GeoSpatial section

14:37:50 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:37:52 <olyerickson> Others in WG should edit wiki, add vocabs they think are "important"

Others in WG should edit wiki, add vocabs they think are "important"

14:37:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> q-

Bart van Leeuwen: q-

14:38:04 <olyerickson> olyerickson will add Prov-related

olyerickson will add Prov-related

14:38:15 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:38:27 <Zakim> +bkaempgen.a

Zakim IRC Bot: +bkaempgen.a

14:38:56 <olyerickson> Top-level link to W3C "PROV" WG http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Main_Page

Top-level link to W3C "PROV" WG http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/Main_Page

14:39:21 <olyerickson> cygri: Look at (our) charter, it is pretty clear on what is expected

Richard Cyganiak: Look at (our) charter, it is pretty clear on what is expected

14:39:57 <olyerickson> * Minimum: look at each area, make sure we're "covered" by existing vocab work (or not)

* Minimum: look at each area, make sure we're "covered" by existing vocab work (or not)

14:40:52 <bhyland> +1 to cygri's understanding of what the WG charter suggests vis a vis vocabs.  Keep it simple but useful IMO.

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to cygri's understanding of what the WG charter suggests vis a vis vocabs. Keep it simple but useful IMO.

14:41:00 <olyerickson> * In areas where there currently aren't W3C or other vocabs in use, make recommendations or highlight the concern

* In areas where there currently aren't W3C or other vocabs in use, make recommendations or highlight the concern

14:41:04 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

14:41:12 <boris> +1 to cygri

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1 to cygri

14:41:52 <olyerickson> george: GLD Vocab "Summary" page is laid out based on Charter requirements

George Thomas: GLD Vocab "Summary" page is laid out based on Charter requirements

14:42:06 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

14:42:11 <cygri> ack me

Richard Cyganiak: ack me

14:42:21 <olyerickson> george: Q: If something is NOT in charter, is it then out of scope?

George Thomas: Q: If something is NOT in charter, is it then out of scope?

14:42:31 <Zakim> -??P53

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P53

14:42:33 <Biplav> q+

Biplav Srivastava: q+

14:42:42 <olyerickson> sandro: Chairs can determine/adjust scope but...

Sandro Hawke: Chairs can determine/adjust scope but...

14:42:57 <olyerickson> sandro: RE "recommendations," cannot exceed charter

Sandro Hawke: RE "recommendations," cannot exceed charter

14:43:41 <olyerickson> sandro: "cookbook" vs "recommendation"

Sandro Hawke: "cookbook" vs "recommendation"

14:43:51 <olyerickson> george: Status of Cookbook?

George Thomas: Status of Cookbook?

14:44:05 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:44:14 <sandro> sandro: we can put advice about anything in the cookbook, but for full-force standards (W3C Recommendations) we need to stick to the charter.

Sandro Hawke: we can put advice about anything in the cookbook, but for full-force standards (W3C Recommendations) we need to stick to the charter. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:44:15 <olyerickson> bhyland/boris/michael: Cookbook Status

bhyland/boris/michael: Cookbook Status

14:45:11 <olyerickson> bhyland: "seed material" is material from LGD book (SPringer, in press)

Bernadette Hyland: "seed material" is material from LGD book (SPringer, in press)

14:45:16 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q

14:45:38 <olyerickson> * in cookbook, approx. 15 vocabs req'd for use in gov't

* in cookbook, approx. 15 vocabs req'd for use in gov't

14:46:12 <olyerickson> bhyland: to add vocab in "cookbook" to wiki

Bernadette Hyland: to add vocab in "cookbook" to wiki

14:46:42 <olyerickson> Action: bhyland to add vocab in "cookbook" to wiki

ACTION: bhyland to add vocab in "cookbook" to wiki

14:46:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - Add vocab in "cookbook" to wiki [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-10-13].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-11 - Add vocab in "cookbook" to wiki [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-10-13].

14:46:58 <olyerickson> zakim, you are awesome

zakim, you are awesome

14:46:58 <Zakim> I don't understand 'you are awesome', olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'you are awesome', olyerickson

14:47:11 <olyerickson> ?? Q; private/public participation

?? Q; private/public participation

14:47:20 <GeraldSteeman> There are US govt challenges

Gerald Steeman: There are US govt challenges

14:47:26 <olyerickson> * in/out of charter

* in/out of charter

14:48:04 <olyerickson> ?? is "Biplav Srivastava"

?? is "Biplav Srivastava"

14:48:13 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:48:41 <cygri> Biplav, charter is here: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter

Richard Cyganiak: Biplav, charter is here: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter

14:48:46 <sandro> I can imagine this (incentives) COULD be a kind of strategy listed in the Directory....

Sandro Hawke: I can imagine this (incentives) COULD be a kind of strategy listed in the Directory....

14:49:04 <GeraldSteeman> http://www.nasa.gov/topics/technology/centennial/index.html as an aero challenge

Gerald Steeman: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/technology/centennial/index.html as an aero challenge

14:49:04 <bhyland> ACTION-11 is for bhyland to add content for all "7 steps" including vocabulary summary for government.

Bernadette Hyland: ACTION-11 is for bhyland to add content for all "7 steps" including vocabulary summary for government.

14:49:06 <cygri> q-

Richard Cyganiak: q-

14:49:12 <George_> ack Biplav

George Thomas: ack Biplav

14:49:31 <George_> ack http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ISO_Extensions_to_SKOS

George Thomas: ack http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/ISO_Extensions_to_SKOS

14:49:34 <olyerickson> Bart: Q: Participating in Linked Data Cookbook effort; no clue how to contribute

Bart van Leeuwen: Q: Participating in Linked Data Cookbook effort; no clue how to contribute

14:49:42 <BartvanLeeuwen> -q

Bart van Leeuwen: -q

14:49:46 <olyerickson> george: talk to bhyland

George Thomas: talk to bhyland

14:50:10 <olyerickson> bhyland is "yeast" for thecookbook (who's the sugar?)

bhyland is "yeast" for thecookbook (who's the sugar?)

14:50:47 <olyerickson> george: In the context of the "Five Areas", is there anything obviously missing that needs to be dded

George Thomas: In the context of the "Five Areas", is there anything obviously missing that needs to be dded

14:50:58 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

14:51:03 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:51:05 <olyerickson> * for example: Vcard? FOAF?

* for example: Vcard? FOAF?

14:51:13 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:51:45 <olyerickson> Cory (??): Fundamental units?

Cory (??): Fundamental units?

14:51:46 <bhyland> TOPIC: Cookbook - I agree to get the cookbook "starter yeast" put on wiki by Monday next week.   The content I've prepared is peer-reviewed and may help to get the cookbook rolling in ernest.

8. Cookbook - I agree to get the cookbook "starter yeast" put on wiki by Monday next week. The content I've prepared is peer-reviewed and may help to get the cookbook rolling in ernest.

14:51:53 <gatemezi> Maybe also legislation?

Ghislain Atemezing: Maybe also legislation?

14:52:06 <olyerickson> Sandro: units are out-of-scope

Sandro Hawke: units are out-of-scope

14:52:15 <sandro> http://schema.org/Person

Sandro Hawke: http://schema.org/Person

14:52:26 <sandro> (another option)

Sandro Hawke: (another option)

14:52:30 <olyerickson> Sandro: Another contender is Schema.org (see above)

Sandro Hawke: Another contender is Schema.org (see above)

14:52:39 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

14:53:06 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

14:53:18 <olyerickson> There's a difference between "practical" vs "technically possible" ...

There's a difference between "practical" vs "technically possible" ...

14:53:35 <olyerickson> cygri: Don't forget about DCMI

Richard Cyganiak: Don't forget about DCMI

14:53:41 <George_> out of scope - licensing, units, time - possible cookbook topics?

George Thomas: out of scope - licensing, units, time - possible cookbook topics?

14:53:49 <bkaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

14:53:52 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:53:52 <olyerickson> +1 to DCMI (shoudk be a default)

+1 to DCMI (shoudk be a default)

14:53:58 <GeraldSteeman> +1 DCMI

Gerald Steeman: +1 DCMI

14:53:58 <cygri> ack me

Richard Cyganiak: ack me

14:53:59 <George_> ack cygri

George Thomas: ack cygri

14:54:06 <George_> ack bhyland

George Thomas: ack bhyland

14:54:54 <olyerickson> bhyland: suggest all in common use with guidance, esp. w.r.t. in'l requirements

Bernadette Hyland: suggest all in common use with guidance, esp. w.r.t. in'l requirements

14:55:12 <olyerickson> q+

q+

14:55:47 <olyerickson> bkaempgen: Are specific use cases required?

Benedikt Kaempgen: Are specific use cases required?

14:56:08 <cygri> bkaempgen++

Richard Cyganiak: bkaempgen++

14:56:36 <gatemezi> zakim, who is speaking?

Ghislain Atemezing: zakim, who is speaking?

14:56:36 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:56:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1 for use cases

Bart van Leeuwen: +1 for use cases

14:56:47 <Zakim> gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.757.604.aagg (43%), George_Thomas (14%), olyerickson (52%), boris (20%)

Zakim IRC Bot: gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.757.604.aagg (43%), George_Thomas (14%), olyerickson (52%), boris (20%)

14:57:45 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:57:53 <gatemezi> Q: is it a way to check "w3c good standing work?

Scribe problem: the name 'Q' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Q: is it a way to check "w3c good standing work? [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ]

14:58:52 <cygri> q-

Richard Cyganiak: q-

14:58:57 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

14:59:03 <cygri> 100% agree with George

Richard Cyganiak: 100% agree with George

14:59:53 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:00:12 <olyerickson> George: GLD can "collect" potentially useful vocabs

George Thomas: GLD can "collect" potentially useful vocabs

15:00:13 <bhyland> George: Would like to see the Vocabulary deliverables specify clear guidance for the 4 sub-deliverables so gov't has clear guidelines (to reduce ambiguity).

George Thomas: Would like to see the Vocabulary deliverables specify clear guidance for the 4 sub-deliverables so gov't has clear guidelines (to reduce ambiguity). [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:00:21 <olyerickson> TOPIC: Out of time...

9. Out of time...

15:00:33 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on call?

15:00:38 <olyerickson> Scribe_next_week Tina

Scribe_next_week Tina

15:00:52 <olyerickson> Upcoming Events:

Upcoming Events:

15:00:59 <olyerickson> * TPAC

* TPAC

15:01:00 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland.

15:01:11 <bhyland> arg!

Bernadette Hyland: arg!

15:01:13 <HadleyBeeman> I'd be happy to see whoever is coming to TPAC… Let me know if you'll be there!

Hadley Beeman: I'd be happy to see whoever is coming to TPAC… Let me know if you'll be there!

15:01:16 <bhyland> zakim, who is on THE call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on THE call?

15:01:21 <George_> q?

George Thomas: q?

15:01:33 <John> apologies for next 3 weeks

John Sheridan: apologies for next 3 weeks

15:01:35 <olyerickson> Meeting is adjourned: 11a

Meeting is adjourned: 11a

15:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, biplav, HadleyBeeman (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P3, George_Thomas, olyerickson, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, bhyland, Sandro, boris, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen, biplav, HadleyBeeman (muted),

15:01:45 <Zakim> ... +1.757.604.aagg, Yigal, cygri, ??P55, +1.703.362.aall, bkaempgen.a

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.757.604.aagg, Yigal, cygri, ??P55, +1.703.362.aall, bkaempgen.a

15:01:45 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, George!

Hadley Beeman: Thanks, George!

15:01:51 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.566.aadd

15:01:59 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

15:02:01 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx george

Bart van Leeuwen: thx george

15:02:02 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

15:02:05 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal

15:02:11 <Zakim> -bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland

15:02:14 <Zakim> -ZacharyWhitley

Zakim IRC Bot: -ZacharyWhitley

15:02:17 <GeraldSteeman> I'm alt for next week, so I'll stay on the line.

Gerald Steeman: I'm alt for next week, so I'll stay on the line.

15:02:20 <Zakim> -boris

Zakim IRC Bot: -boris

15:02:21 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

15:02:26 <Zakim> -bkaempgen.a

Scribe problem: the name 'bkaempgen.a' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Dean Allemang Martín Álvarez Phil Archer Yigal Arens Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Luis Bermudez William Brafford Lyle Burgoon Sarven Capadisli Cory Casanave Richard Cyganiak John Erickson Maria Fernandez Ruiz Tina Gheen Dan Gillman Asunción Gómez Pérez John Goodwin Jorge Gracia Jonathan Gray Christophe Gueret David Hau Michael Hausenblas Sandro Hawke Bernadette Hyland Benedikt Kaempgen Martin Kaltenböck Stasinos Konstantopoulos Fadi Maali Bede McCall Daniel Mekonnen Elena Montiel Ponsoda Aitor Moreno Chris Musialek Tope Omitola Michael Pendleton Irene Polikoff David Price Ronald Reck John Sheridan David Smith John Speakman Biplav Srivastava Gerald Steeman George Thomas Raphaël Troncy Bart van Leeuwen Daniel Vila Boris Villazón-Terrazas Simon Wall Anne Washington Zachary Whitley Mohamed ZERGAOUI Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -bkaempgen.a

15:02:27 <George_> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

George Thomas: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

15:02:27 <Zakim> -??P55

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P55

15:02:36 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen

15:02:38 <Zakim> - +1.703.362.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.362.aall

15:02:41 <George_> RRSAgent, make minutes

George Thomas: RRSAgent, make minutes

15:02:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-minutes.html George_

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-minutes.html George_

15:02:52 <Zakim> -stasinos

Zakim IRC Bot: -stasinos

15:03:01 <Zakim> -biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: -biplav

15:03:57 <George_> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-10-06

George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-10-06

15:03:57 <olyerickson> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-10-06

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-10-06

15:04:19 <George_> http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-minutes.html

George Thomas: http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-gld-minutes.html

15:06:18 <GeraldSteeman> What does trackbot do?

Gerald Steeman: What does trackbot do?

15:06:53 <olyerickson> sandro

sandro

15:07:10 <olyerickson> Sandro, the attendees are not listed in the auto-generated minites

Sandro, the attendees are not listed in the auto-generated minites

15:08:41 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

15:08:44 <Zakim> -George_Thomas

Zakim IRC Bot: -George_Thomas

15:17:15 <sandro> Zakim, list attendees

(No events recorded for 8 minutes)

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, list attendees

15:17:15 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been George_Thomas, +49.721.aabb, olyerickson, +1.240.228.aacc, Sandro, boris, bhyland, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been George_Thomas, +49.721.aabb, olyerickson, +1.240.228.aacc, Sandro, boris, bhyland, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd,

15:17:19 <Zakim> ... BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, +44.776.871.aaff, +1.757.604.aagg, HadleyBeeman, +1.703.362.aahh, +1.323.683.aaii, cygri, +1.703.362.aajj, Yigal, +1.703.362.aakk,

Zakim IRC Bot: ... BartvanLeeuwen, +91.80.49.06.aaee, +44.776.871.aaff, +1.757.604.aagg, HadleyBeeman, +1.703.362.aahh, +1.323.683.aaii, cygri, +1.703.362.aajj, Yigal, +1.703.362.aakk,

15:17:25 <Zakim> ... +1.703.362.aall, biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.703.362.aall, biplav

15:18:26 <sandro> olyerickson, what scribe procedure are you following....?

Sandro Hawke: olyerickson, what scribe procedure are you following....?

15:19:05 <sandro> (it doesn't like you're using commonscribe...)

Sandro Hawke: (it doesn't like you're using commonscribe...)

15:19:32 <sandro> ie http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Chatlog_2011-10-06

Sandro Hawke: ie http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Chatlog_2011-10-06

15:27:33 <Zakim> - +1.757.604.aagg

(No events recorded for 8 minutes)

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.757.604.aagg

16:42:48 <Zakim> -bkaempgen

(No events recorded for 75 minutes)

Zakim IRC Bot: -bkaempgen

16:47:48 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, ??P3, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, ??P3, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

16:47:52 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

16:47:55 <Zakim> Attendees were George_Thomas, +49.721.aabb, olyerickson, +1.240.228.aacc, Sandro, boris, bhyland, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were George_Thomas, +49.721.aabb, olyerickson, +1.240.228.aacc, Sandro, boris, bhyland, bkaempgen, ZacharyWhitley, stasinos, +1.202.566.aadd, BartvanLeeuwen,

16:47:58 <Zakim> ... +91.80.49.06.aaee, +44.776.871.aaff, +1.757.604.aagg, HadleyBeeman, +1.703.362.aahh, +1.323.683.aaii, cygri, +1.703.362.aajj, Yigal, +1.703.362.aakk, +1.703.362.aall, biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +91.80.49.06.aaee, +44.776.871.aaff, +1.757.604.aagg, HadleyBeeman, +1.703.362.aahh, +1.323.683.aaii, cygri, +1.703.362.aajj, Yigal, +1.703.362.aakk, +1.703.362.aall, biplav



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