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<emma> Previous minutes: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html
<emma> Resgrets+: Andras, Bernard, Jodi
<emma> still looking for a volunteer for scribing
<digikim> hello
<edsu> Zoia, LC is edsu
<kai> still think i am p26...
<emma> Scrive: Tod
<emma> Scribe: Tod
<emma> scribenick: matolat
<edsu> Zakim: LC is edsu
<rsinger> edsu: heh, "Zoia,.."
<scribe> ACTION: To accept minutes of previous telecon: [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/16-lld-minutes.html#action01]
http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html
RESOLVED:To accept minutes of previous telecon: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/09/09-lld-minutes.html
kcoyle: need a set of goals for F2F
emma: Not yet, want to discuss
Use cases
... discuss Topic list at F2F, don't have the goals for F2F
<Zakim> TomB, you wanted to suggest that, as a goal, we clarify what deliverables we want to achieve by end of charter
kcoyle: Very broad topics, we need to help guide our thoughts to make good use of the time
TomB: chartered 1 year, number of wiki pages, artifacts, but we need to understand what we can deliver in our timeframe
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on use cases requirements topics
TomB: may want to decide what deliverables we can work on and what should be next steps
Antoine: Use case call will be closed,
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on organization
Emma: main goal F2F is to define the deliverables from the use cases
Antoine: question on mic and speaker, can supply them?
<kcoyle> for computer?
<antoine> karen, yes
<jeff_> i can ask if we have it
<antoine> +1
RESOLUTION: Potential attendees in Pittsburgh to use wiki page to indicate whether they are attending or not at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F
emma: use case call sent
<emma> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Cases_Gathering
<antoine> typically people send answers quite late :-)
antoine: number of lists that added and not sure if mail has been sent
<Marcia> .
<Marcia> .?
marcia: has sent to her lists added
emma: Discussion of two related use cases (Joachim and Ed)
[1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Publishing_20th_Century_Press_Archives
[2] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_NDNP
<emma> http://zbw.eu/beta/p20/about
antonie; what data like at the start and how was it enriched
<edsu> antoine: good question :)
Joachim: link to German authority
file LLD impl
... difficult because don't have authority file
idenitifers
... few American newspaper articles available, hope that other
German databases to link to
I don't know if I caught all of that Joachim (please add comments?)
Joachim: metadata is mostly attached to folders
<edsu> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dv89m3d_466c3nxbc53
Edsu: Use case NDNP
... part of 20 year project digitize american newspaper. Start
to move microfilm to be digitized
... 250 harddrived, of batches (xml. tiff. ocr files)
... LD is webapp that sit on top of data, search OCR and
browse
... data is being cut off in 1922 copyright issues
avoided
... each batch gets a name, browse from batch to issues
... problem how to get data to researchers
... have relational db, that could be dumped, this where LD
approach helps
... mint cool URLs, get rdf that describe the data
... not hierarchical, graph view makes linking more
natural.
... link to dbpedia get geo coordinates to map newspaper
coverage?
... links to flikr to allow folks to interact with data
more
<antoine> Ed: really great!
Edsu: FOAF to describe the agent
that produced the data, some additional project define
vocab
... example use of data to explore Chicago news titles
relate
<Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about use of ORE in two cases
Edsu: how to make annotations more readable. would be nice to capture them and add to the data set (e.g., from flikr)
antoine: have that 2 cases data been compared?
Edsu: look some at ORE data, but
the vocab is small
... could be too generic
Joachim: want to apply to search results that are not covered by other vocab.
<edsu> here's an example of some rdf for a page w/ some oai-ore http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1880-02-03/ed-1/seq-1.rdf
Joachim: would allow to describe
the boundaries of aggregation
... describe the links of aggregation
Edsu: nice about ORE, allows people to extract not just the metadata, but the things being described
<edsu> jneubert: you first :-)
Antoin: did you feel to need to choose the original data that you got?
will take question offline
<antoine> ACTION: Everyone to elaborate on topics in the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
<edsu> cheers :-)
<digikim> thanks!
<scribe> ACTION: Everyone to elaborate on topics in the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/07/08-lld-minutes.html#action08] --continues
<emma> [adjourned]
<emma> rrsagent please draft minutes
<antoine> zaki, please list participants
<antoine> ACTION: Potential attendees in Pittsburgh to use wiki page to indicate whether they are attending or not at http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/F2F [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/26-lld-minutes.html#action01] [DONE]
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