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<DKA> Hi all!
<DKA> Ahem... Hello Mobile Web Fans!
<DKA> I am happy to scribe today.
<jo> Seoul Poll
Jo: What do people think?
<dom> DKA: I'm a bit worried of organizing a long-haul travel for that F2F
<dom> ... getting a lot pressure on reducing travel cost
<dom> ... maybe we could revisit that plan
Dan: I'm worried about the wisdom of organizing a long-haul f2f. Positive about the idea and I feel it would be very valuable I am worried about it.
Jo: Suggest we reopen the
poll.
... We haven't had a full response so let's encourage people to
do this for next week.
<scribe> ACTION: Dan to encourage people to answer the poll. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-882 - Encourage people to answer the poll. [on Daniel Appelquist - due 2008-11-20].
<dom> [I would also suggest revisiting that decision]
Jo: Dom what do you mean?
Dom: Having a f2f meeting in Korea might be problematic for many people to participate. It would be good explain this...
Jo: Anything to report?
Francois: nothing to report - things going as smooth as possible. We received a few strongly supporting comments from AC.
<dom> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/mobileOK-basic10-tests/
Jo: Let's make sure everyone has expressed support.
Jo: Let's move on.
Yeliz: not much to report. No update on the document. Not sure about the progress of the main technical document.
<scribe> ACTION: Yeliz to take an action to talk to Alan and report back to group on status of technical doc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-883 - Take an action to talk to Alan and report back to group on status of technical doc. [on Yeliz Yesilada - due 2008-11-20].
Jo: anything to say here?
Dom: Didn't Kai ask for specific approval of the new proposed structure?
Jo: Maybe we can take that resolution.
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Kai please go ahead per the discussions under ACTION-871 and ACTION-872
Dom: He was asking if we wanted
to go ahead with the new format for BP 1.5.
... I think he wanted more detail than that.
<jo> ACTION: Jo to ask Kai to summarise ACTION-871 and ACTGION-872 threads so we can take a resolution on it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-884 - Ask Kai to summarise ACTION-871 and ACTGION-872 threads so we can take a resolution on it [on Jo Rabin - due 2008-11-20].
Jo: A draft today on that.
... I proposed a resolution earlier today. There are more
changes in the works to the draft.
<jo> tomorrow's draft of mobileOK Scheme
Jo: What we've got now is better than what's there right now.
+1
<francois> +1 to publish the new draft
no
Jo: Any views - should we delay?
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: BPWG requests prublication of the mobileOK Scheme Dated 14 Nov 2008 as a Group Working Draft
Dom: For clarification this would mean this is not the final document just another working version.
Jo: Yes because we don't have a link to the license version. I wish it could be the final version.
<dom> +1 on new WD
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: BPWG requests publication of the mobileOK Scheme Dated 14 Nov 2008 as a Group Working Draft
+1 on the resolution
<jsmanrique> +1
<francois> +1
<adam> +1
<yeliz> +1
Jo: Any objections?
DKA: +1 on the resolution
jsmanrique: +1
dom: zakim, mute me
Zakim: dom should now be muted
francois: +1
adam: +1
yeliz: +1
DKA: Jo: Any objections?
<PhilA> :-)
RESOLUTION: BPWG requests publication of the mobileOK Scheme Dated 14 Nov 2008 as a Group working draft
Jo: Yay!
<PhilA> double yay!
Jo: Francois?
Francois: there's a new draft in
town
... New draft includes all the changes we made due to last call
comments.
... Some comments in already.
<jo> New draft of CT
Francois: New invited expert - Eduardo - he has sent constructive comments.
<jsmanrique> Zakim: abel is manrique
Jo: So a few things to tidy up.
But very little left open. Moderately positive about getting
through all of these within next couple of weeks.
... We've got a big hole in https where we need further
clarification and have had no replies yet.
Francois: I sent an email to the IETF mailing list and didn't get any replies. I think that probably it also means there's not much more information that we're missing. I don't think we should worry too much.
Jo: Questions / comments?
Dan: Will CT be one of the documents released before end-of-year?
Jo: I'd like it to be.
<dom> publication moratorium for the end of year
Francois: Yes but not sure it can be last call working draft.
Jo: Be positive!
Adam: Not much progress this and next week - after that things should pick up. Completed draft before meeting after next.
Jo: Looking at the timings, there's a publication moritorium before the end of the year - we should aim to have another public draft before that.
Adam: yes.
Dan: Should we consider mobile ajax styleguide from OAA?
http://www.openajax.org/member/wiki/Mobile_Device_APIs_Style_Guide
Adam: I will review.
<dom> [I think this is for developing APIs, rather than developing content]
<jo> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/open
Yes but we should still review and see if there's anything relevant to bp2.
ACTION-694?
<trackbot> ACTION-694 -- Scott Hughes to review apple document and summarise the parts that might be applicable to BP2 -- due 2008-07-29 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/694
Jo: Scott member of the group?
Dan: Scott has had his time pulled away from the group unfortunately.
Jo: Can we transfer this action to someone else please?
Dan: Please assign the action back to me and I will chase Scott.
<dom> ACTION-694?
<trackbot> ACTION-694 -- Daniel Appelquist to review apple document and summarise the parts that might be applicable to BP2 -- due 2008-11-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/694
ACTION-697?
<trackbot> ACTION-697 -- Daniel Appelquist to summarize the points he can glean from examination of the frost library -- due 2008-09-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/697
Dan: summarizes points as
follows:
... no points.
<jo> CLOSE ACTION-697
<trackbot> ACTION-697 Summarize the points he can glean from examination of the frost library closed
ACTION-710?
<trackbot> ACTION-710 -- François Daoust to test the Effect of HEAD Requests on Various Servers -- due 2008-07-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/710
Francois: I did this - should I send a public report.
Dan: I think so - just for posterity's sake.
Francois: I will send as an email.
ACTION-711?
<trackbot> ACTION-711 -- Soonho Lee to provide Feedback on Content Transformation Document -- due 2008-07-10 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/711
CLOSE ACTION-711
<trackbot> ACTION-711 Provide Feedback on Content Transformation Document closed
ACTION-721?
<trackbot> ACTION-721 -- François Daoust to prepare a report's form to fill to test Aaron static/dynamic example -- due 2008-08-14 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/721
Francois: A long time ago, Aaron
sent a couple of tests comparing static web page with dynamicly
assembling the page. I haven't done this.
... I think it's still a good idea.
ACTION-730?
<trackbot> ACTION-730 -- François Daoust to work with jo to figure out the details of a workshop on Content Transformation -- due 2008-08-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/730
Jo: Postpone this until February
ok?
... I will move it to February the 20th of next year.
ACTION-783?
<trackbot> ACTION-783 -- Daniel Appelquist to come up with alternative phrasing for Web 2.0 -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/783
The whole general thingy you know?
Dom: the MWABP talks about Web 2.0 and this action was to find a better phrasing.
Jo: I vote for leaving it as is.
<dom> "Readers of this document are expected to be familiar with the creation of Web applications, and to have a general familiarity with the technologies involved, such as Web servers, HTTP, and Web 2.0."
<dom> in http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/Drafts/BestPractices-2.0/ED-mobile-bp2-20081008#audience
http://www.w3.org/TR/mwabp/#audience
Adam: I will take it on - please close it.
ACTION-787?
<trackbot> ACTION-787 -- Scott Hughes to draft text re power efficiency -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/787
Dan: I will chase Scott.
ACTION-788
ACTION-788?
<trackbot> ACTION-788 -- Daniel Appelquist to communicate with OpenAjax Alliance about the backlighting issue and null gestures -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/788
Dan: I contacted OAA but didn't received a response yet.
Jo: We will re-action you to get a response [edits action]
ACTION-789?
<trackbot> ACTION-789 -- Scott Hughes to propose text for different interaction modes in discussion with Adam -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/789
<jo> Close ACTION-789
<trackbot> ACTION-789 Propose text for different interaction modes in discussion with Adam closed
Adam: This turns into a section of BP2.
ACTION-791?
<trackbot> ACTION-791 -- Daniel Appelquist to draft some text on WICD -- due 2008-06-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/791
<jo> Close ACTION-791
<trackbot> ACTION-791 Draft some text on WICD closed
ACTION-794?
<trackbot> ACTION-794 -- Adam Connors to lead off discussion on ISSUE-265 following completion of next draft BP2 -- due 2008-07-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/794
ISSUE-265?
<trackbot> ISSUE-265 -- Discussion of Jonathan's Submission ref separation of structure presentation and behavior at http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhpvgnmn_54d7cbhrhn -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/265
Jo: Adam?
Adam: Have not completed response - leave open.
ACTION-796?
<trackbot> ACTION-796 -- Daniel Appelquist to contact BBC to see if they can make their mobile web site mobileOK -- due 2008-06-25 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/796
ACTION-797?
<trackbot> ACTION-797 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to check on availability of data about the number of acceptable links in a focus-based browser -- due 2008-09-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/797
Jo: Jeff?
Jeff: I've got a UI colleague looking for prior literature but hasn't found any yet. Think it's worth continuting looking.
Jo: Ok we'll leave it open for now.
ACTION-820?
<trackbot> ACTION-820 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to look at providing examples for accessibility document -- due 2008-10-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/820
Jeff: In 2 weeks we will pick up after the group look at condensing down WCAG into something usable by mobile developers...
Jo: Let's leave it open for the time being.
ACTION-823?
<trackbot> ACTION-823 -- Adam Connors to stimulate another round of discussion on what is missing from BP-2 FPWD -- due 2008-08-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/823
<jo> Close ACTION-823
<trackbot> ACTION-823 Stimulate another round of discussion on what is missing from BP-2 FPWD closed
ACTION-830?
<trackbot> ACTION-830 -- Bryan Sullivan to review correspondence with Dennis cf LC-2065 and to draft a) proposed changes to the document and b) a proposed response to Dennis -- due 2008-09-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/830
ACTION-832?
<trackbot> ACTION-832 -- Sean Patterson to look at what the impact on the document would be if we removed the definitions referred to in LC-2050 -- due 2008-09-08 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/832
ACTION-846?
<trackbot> ACTION-846 -- François Daoust to prepare an Implementation Conformance Statement -- due 2008-09-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/846
ACTION-853?
<trackbot> ACTION-853 -- Adam Connors to re-write 3.1.1 along the lines discussed today. -- due 2008-10-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/853
Adam: That came out of the editorial meeting. it's done.
<jo> close ACTION-853
<trackbot> ACTION-853 Re-write 3.1.1 along the lines discussed today. closed
ACTION-855?
<trackbot> ACTION-855 -- Adam Connors to add an appendix on device info based on Bryan's contribution with a placeholder for additional device capabilities that are implied by the BP2 BPs. -- due 2008-10-03 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/855
Adam: better leave it open - I'll go through the minutes to clarify.
ACTION-866?
<trackbot> ACTION-866 -- Jo Rabin to include text referencing resolution to LC-2003 -- due 2008-10-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/866
ACTION-862?
<trackbot> ACTION-862 -- Adam Connors to send email about issues -- due 2008-10-15 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/862
<jo> Close ACTION-862
<trackbot> ACTION-862 Send email about issues closed
ACTION-867?
<trackbot> ACTION-867 -- François Daoust to look into an appendix with relevant normative statements of RFC2616 and report back to the group. -- due 2008-10-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/867
ACTION-870?
<trackbot> ACTION-870 -- Daniel Appelquist to liaise with Seungyun and Jonathan re setting up a call in 4 weeks with a view to having 2 weekly calls in the morning European time -- due 2008-10-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/870
Dan: Not done yet.
ACTION-873?
<trackbot> ACTION-873 -- Daniel Appelquist to provide some words on conservative use of resources -- due 2008-10-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/873
Adam: this is the plea to help the poor network operators.
Dan: not done.
ACTION-874?
<trackbot> ACTION-874 -- Adam Connors to refine the wording on graceful degradation trimming and making more explicit the text -- due 2008-10-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/874
Adam: not done yet.
ACTION-876?
<trackbot> ACTION-876 -- Adam Connors to send to Jeff list of test cases that Jeff can inflict on a grad student. -- due 2008-10-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/876
Jeff: The test cases have been received. We have a grad student lined up when we're back from break.
Jo: Rest of the open actions were raised today or not overdue yet.
<francois> ScribeNick: adam
ACTION-762
ACTION-762 ?
<trackbot> ACTION-762 -- Jo Rabin to review ISSUE-250 with a view to how this affects content of mobileOK scheme -- due 2008-05-29 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/762
jo: going to close this one, I've done my bit.
<jo> Close ACTION-762
<trackbot> ACTION-762 Review ISSUE-250 with a view to how this affects content of mobileOK scheme closed
ACTION-786 ?
<trackbot> ACTION-786 -- Jo Rabin to draft wording for an appendix that identifies the aggregators and operator roles that are different in the mobile ecosystem. -- due 2008-06-24 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/786
ACTION 790 ?
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 790
ACTION-790 ?
<trackbot> ACTION-790 -- Alan Chuter to produce some text around accessibility of Javascript for Web Application Best Practices -- due 2008-07-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/790
ACTION-792 ?
<trackbot> ACTION-792 -- Abel Rionda to propose some text on SVG -- due 2008-07-31 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/792
<dom> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2008Jul/0090.html
ACTION-842 ?
<trackbot> ACTION-842 -- François Daoust to get back to aaron from google to see if he can get some stats for us -- due 2008-10-15 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/842
<DKA> Scribe: Dan
<jo> Close ACtion-842
<trackbot> ACTION-842 Get back to aaron from google to see if he can get some stats for us closed
<DKA> ScribeNick: DKA
ACTION-843?
<trackbot> ACTION-843 -- Jo Rabin to see if he can come up with wording on this section that might accommodate everyone -- due 2008-09-15 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/843
ACTION-844?
<trackbot> ACTION-844 -- Adam Connors to raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments -- due 2008-09-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/844
<jo> close action-844
<trackbot> ACTION-844 Raise ISSUEs based on Bryan's comments closed
ACTION-863?
<trackbot> ACTION-863 -- Jo Rabin to reword following WSC WG feedback on proposed changes to mobileOK Basic -- due 2008-10-14 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/863
Jo: that's done.
<jo> close ACTION-863
<trackbot> ACTION-863 Reword following WSC WG feedback on proposed changes to mobileOK Basic closed
ACTION-871?
<trackbot> ACTION-871 -- Jo Rabin to work with Kai on clarifying purpose text of bp 1.5 -- due 2008-10-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/871
ACTION-872?
<trackbot> ACTION-872 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to work on reformulating 4 "tests" of BP 1.5 -- due 2008-10-28 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/872
<jo> Close Action-872
<trackbot> ACTION-872 Work on reformulating 4 "tests" of BP 1.5 closed
Jo: both 871 and 872 are done.
<jo> close action-871
<trackbot> ACTION-871 Work with Kai on clarifying purpose text of bp 1.5 closed
ACTION-875?
<trackbot> ACTION-875 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to scope current draft and see what aspects may be of interest to us. -- due 2008-10-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/875
Jo: We'll come back to ETSI review in a second.
ACTION-876?
<trackbot> ACTION-876 -- Adam Connors to send to Jeff list of test cases that Jeff can inflict on a grad student. -- due 2008-10-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/876
ACTION-877?
<trackbot> ACTION-877 -- François Daoust to create a poll on Alan's document once it's published as an updated working draft with a review period of 4 weeks -- due 2008-11-12 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/877
ACTION-878?
<trackbot> ACTION-878 -- François Daoust to create a poll on having f2f in seoul on week of February 2nd -- due 2008-10-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/878
Jo: That's done.
<jo> close action-878
<trackbot> ACTION-878 Create a poll on having f2f in seoul on week of February 2nd closed
Jo: Stupendous!
[silence]
<jo> ISSUE-256?
<trackbot> ISSUE-256 -- Call for 10 mobileOK sites -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/256
ISSUE-256?
<trackbot> ISSUE-256 -- Call for 10 mobileOK sites -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/256
Jo: It's done right?
<jo> Close ISSUE-256
+1 to closing
ISSUE-267?
<trackbot> ISSUE-267 -- Respond to ETSI liaison -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/267
Jo: that's closed - it was the other liaison.
ISSUE-269?
<trackbot> ISSUE-269 -- Need clarity on the meaning of a mobileOK Claim, Basic Tests or not? -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/269
Jo: That's done afaic
ISSUE-273?
<trackbot> ISSUE-273 -- Is the mobileOK Pro Tests document supposed to be an addendum to the Best Practices document or to the Basic Tests document? -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/273
Jo: The answer is both.
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: ref ISSUE-273 the answer is both per AVTION-871 and ACTION-872
<jeffs> +1
<jo> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: ref ISSUE-273 the answer is both per ACTION-871 and ACTION-872
+1 and stuff
RESOLUTION: ref ISSUE-273 the answer is both per ACTION-871 and ACTION-872
ISSUE-276?
<trackbot> ISSUE-276 -- 3.1.1 Retain Personalization Information -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/276
Adam: This has been rewritten so this should be closed.
ISSUE-282?
<trackbot> ISSUE-282 -- What to do about the "together" section in the accessibility doc? Remove it? Expand it? -- RAISED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/282
Jo: This is a moot point.
... So close.
<dom> no pending review issues!
<jsmanrique> :-)
<jo> Open Issues
ISSUE-116?
<trackbot> ISSUE-116 -- Thematic Consistency checking -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/116
Jo: It's no longer relevant. Objections to closing?
[no objections]
ISSUE-188?
<trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Should THEMATIC_CONSISTENCY be clarified? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/188
<jeffs> kill
Jo: From march 2007. I suggest we close this as well. Objections?
[none]
Jo: It's closed.
ISSUE-248?
<trackbot> ISSUE-248 -- Can mobile device browsers make use of microformats? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/248
Jo: Should we keep this open?
Dan: Close it.
Jo: Ok we'll kill it.
ISSUE-262?
<trackbot> ISSUE-262 -- Discuss the option to offer choices of presentation as a best practices for mobile web apps -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/262
Jo: Who would like to volunteer
some text as choices of representation as a bp of mwabp.
... Anybody?
... I'd like to offer following as proposed text I prepared
earlier.
<jo> http://mobiforge.com/designing/story/a-very-modern-mobile-switching-algorithm-part-i
Jo: let's leave this open for the time being.
<jeffs> think I need to read that first
ISSUE-263?
<trackbot> ISSUE-263 -- How to keep the screen alive (re null gestures) - what to recommend? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/263
ISSUE-264?
<trackbot> ISSUE-264 -- How to rephrase progressive enhancement to make it fit as a BP? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/264
<jeffs> go for the rewite
Adam: this is a conversation we had at last f2f - lots of good actions which are still being written up.
ISSUE-268?
<trackbot> ISSUE-268 -- Test cases to illustrate mobile web application best practices -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/268
<jeffs> useful
ISSUE-271?
<trackbot> ISSUE-271 -- Next steps on the conversion of mobileOK Pro to the Addendum to BP 1.0 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/271
Jo: Can we close this one?
<jeffs> kill it
Jo: OK close it.
ISSUE-272?
<trackbot> ISSUE-272 -- What is the new name of document, currently called "mobileOK Pro Tests Version 1", which is supposed to be an addendum to the Best Practices document, to be? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/272
Jo: We can close that one.
ISSUE-274
ISSUE-274?
<trackbot> ISSUE-274 -- Which texts are missing from the addendum that are needed to turn it into an addendum? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/274
<achuter> akim, mute me
Jo: I think we can close this issue.
<jeffs> kill
Jo: Any objections?
[none]
Jo: Let's close.
ISSUE-275?
<trackbot> ISSUE-275 -- 4.2.1 Protect Personal Information -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/issues/275
Adam: I rewrote this so it's done.
Jo: Close then.
[278 and 279 as well]
Jo: Ok everybodee!
Dom: On ISSUE-279, I think that Bryan has an open action it.
Adam: yes - well spoted.
Jo: So leave ISSUE-279 open [but close ISSUE-278]
<jo> Jeff's comments
<jo> ACTION-875?
<trackbot> ACTION-875 -- Jeffrey Sonstein to scope current draft and see what aspects may be of interest to us. -- due 2008-10-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/875
Jo: Take it away Jeff!
Jeff: Basically the document refered to from ETSI is really something that refers to another quite a bit thicker document. Have sent out email with liittle response. Before I go into this document I want to get steer from the group. Some of the sections seem releavnt. Have sent email.
Jo: I think these documents are not review for very much longer.
Jeff: Reality check - I raised 2 issues - do you want me to address both of them in my response?
Jo: That's fine.
<jo> ACTION: Jeff to draft a response to ETSI ref his 2 main issues as discussed under ACTION-875 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeff
<jo> ACTION: Jeffs to draft a response to ETSI ref his 2 main issues as discussed under ACTION-875 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeffs
<jo> ACTION: sonstein to draft a response to ETSI ref his 2 main issues as discussed under ACTION-875 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/13-bpwg-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-885 - Draft a response to ETSI ref his 2 main issues as discussed under ACTION-875 [on Jeffrey Sonstein - due 2008-11-20].
Jo: Thanks for that Jeff.
What do you call a problem like uh.. best practices?
<jeffs> DKA, you there???
That was a brilliant minimalist art piece. you just didn't get it.
Still here.
<jeffs> ??