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<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19] [ONGOING]
Ben: My action is "why doesn't W3C Validator accept xmlns?"
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml
mh: The test case above validates at W3C
Ben: I think using internal subsets like this will scare people away
mh: It is just to get it to validate
Ben: I am very worried doing it this way
Mark: Let's table this for another week
... I chatted with Shane, who had chatted with Steven, and I think there is a
solution emerging
... let's put it properly on the agenda
Ben: I'll put it on the agenda in 2 weeks when I am back from my move
Steven: I saw that this had been added as a bug on the validator bug system (http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4475)
mh: Look at the test suite,
you'll see the partitioning has been done
... there is a question of the correct format for XHTML 1.1
... extension, namespaces etc.
... we need to decide that
Ben: Once you have an answer, it will be straight-forward to go with it
mh: Yes
Ben: I must check the bookmarklet on the latest
test cases
... next week
... you got feedback from Fabien?
mh: Yes
Ben: Can you proceed?
mh: We can do the core set
Steven: W3C urls are supposed to be opaque, so there is no meaning to "file extension" in that context - it is the media type that is importnant. The file extension and the media type are orthogonal issues. If we use .html as the file extension in the filestore, and override the W3C default media type using .htaccess, it will work in IE.
Ben: PROPOSE: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now
<mhausenblas> +1
Simone: Other markup languages have similar
problems to us
... the validator will fix it
... I think this is a correct approach
Ben: Any opposition or abstention?
<Simone> +1
[none]
RESOLUTION: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now
PROPOSAL: use the suffix .html on the files and serve as application/xhtml+xml
Ben: Is this the right thing to do?
<ShaneM> There is no W3C blessed file suffix.
<mhausenblas> test input without suffix
<Steven> That is being served as text/plain
Shane: using a suffix of .html is fine as I am concerned
Mark: Why isn't content negotiation the right thing?
Steven: Because this solution is better - it is being served to IE as application/xhtml+xml, and working
Ben: Let's treat this as a separate agenda
item
... and discuss on the mailing list
... I have to leave in 8 mins
... most actions are mine
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to discuss Primer and Use Cases as Note, Syntax and Test Cases as REC, at SWD WG meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
Ben: Ralph thinks that the primer needs to be rec track
<scribe> -- Done
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to discuss RDFa Overview as a note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to email list about next week's vote on a resolution regarding CLASS and ROLE attributes and rdf:type. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action18] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to email the resolution on mime type to the mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action20] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for everyone's approval next week. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to hand over rdfa syntax baton to Steven on 4/23 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action16] [DONE]
<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze the XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
<EliasT> :-)
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
<scribe> -- Continues
Ben: Shane, what is your opinion?
... or are you looking for advice?
Shane: Well, looking for group opinion
Ben: One approach is to treat it like href
Mark: The element name already gives some
clue
... so it is different from href
... I have another proposal that I haven't yet written up about @class being
a predicate
Ben: The element type doesn't really work for me
Mark: The predicate may end up in the wrong
place
... (working this out on the fly)
... if you want foaf:depiction
<EliasT> example please?
Ben: I can see how you would use @class for a
type on the image, and rel for the relationship with the document
... Can you write this up this week?
Mark: Yes
<benadida> ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
Steven: XHTML2 has src and href on the same
element in some cases
... so we have to watch out
Mark: Still we want to be able to use the src as a source of a URI
Ben: I have to go
... you can discuss src and role if you want
<benadida> ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]
Ben: and will schedule a new teleconference time
Steven: I propose we do the rest of the discussion on email, so you Ben can be involved
Ben: OK, in that case, adjourn
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