EPUB 3 Working Group Telco — Minutes

Date: 2022-03-17

See also the Agenda and the IRC Log


Present: Masakazu Kitahara, Toshiaki Koike, Shinya Takami (高見真也), Wendy Reid, Brady Duga, Matthew Chan, Murata Makoto

Regrets: Ben Schroeter, Dave Cramer, John Foliot


Chair: Wendy Reid

Scribe(s): Matthew Chan


1. Media overlay semantics (issue epub-specs#2066)

See github issue epub-specs#2066.

Wendy Reid: you may have noticed a flurry of new issues logged due to people reviewing spec.
… we have a normative statement that MO SHOULD use semantics when appropriate, and we do not clarify what we mean by semantics, or what semantics to use.

See github pull request epub-specs#2089.

Wendy Reid: mgarrish has discussed with danielwreck and marissa, and put together a PR.
… to clean up the language in that section, particularly dropping SHOULD to MAY.
… we can’t drop the statement altogether, but SHOULD is a little strong in this case.
… and to specify that we are talking about footnote, endnote, page break.
… now we have something that could technically be tested (although it is not a required feature, we are discouraging use of epub:type).
… there is also a small addition to the RS spec to make similar clarifications there.
… questions?.

Murata Makoto: this changes both Core and RS, right?.

Wendy Reid: yes.
… the change to RS is barely a change, it keeps the normative statements but offers a little more information about what the RS should be doing.

Murata Makoto: mgarrish dropped one bullet in EPUB 33 core?.

Wendy Reid: he changed one SHOULD to MAY, and both escapability and skippability are better defined. It should be in the PR.

Murata Makoto: seems sensible, but I haven’t reviewed the details.

Wendy Reid: to clarify, he dropped the SHOULD, and made the following statement a MAY.

Murata Makoto: no objections, but 4 reviewers have proof read the proposed change?.

Wendy Reid: yes.
… I didn’t know there was a going to be a PR in time for the meeting today, mgarrish was ahead of schedule.
… we will have to close this issue soon (within the next week or so) so if you have an interest in this please review the PR.

2. Document Review.

Wendy Reid: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qer78BUDpaDb_nav_wuhjeyjMD8Fk7UiakoP2sBf5jc/edit#gid=0.

Wendy Reid: in prep for going to CR we are looking to get various members of the CR to review sections of the documents.
… you need to check for clarity, spelling errors, grammar, etc..
… mgarrish, Ivan, etc. have touched the document, but its always good to have more eyes on the document.
… so please volunteer to take sections. Some sections are shorter than others..
… let’s share the load and get through this as quickly as possible.
… I know not everything is completely comfortable in English, but this is a good opportunity to judge whether we are using clear language.
… it should be understandable.

Brady Duga: what is our timeline? I am around next week, followed by 2 weeks of vacation.

Wendy Reid: okay, then before you leave please?.

Brady Duga: okay, well, sooner rather than later then.

Wendy Reid: i think there is a publication moratorium early April, so we were hoping to hit end of Mar.
… not sure why there is a moratorium, maybe there is an AC meeting or something.

Murata Makoto: the JP DAISY consortium has already passed an earlier version of epub a11y, but it should not be difficult for us to review the a11y 1.1 doc.
… JP DAISY will review that entire spec.

Shinya Takami (高見真也): I will translate for JP members.

Wendy Reid: thank you.

Shinya Takami (高見真也): [in Japanese].
… I have explained that it will help to review, whether you are strong in english or not.

Murata Makoto: JDC will raise issues. Both editorial and technical..

Wendy Reid: if you claim a section, please place your name in the doc in the agenda.

3. AOB?.

Wendy Reid: okay, thank you all for attending, we will see you all soon!.