[minutes] Internationalization telecon 2020-01-16

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                                - DRAFT -

            Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Jan 2020

    [2]Agenda

       [2] 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Jan/0008.html

Attendees

    Present
           JcK, atsushi, addison, Bert, Richard, najib

    Regrets

    Chair
           Addison Phillips

    Scribe
           addison

Contents

      * [3]Topics
          1. [4]Agenda and Minutes
          2. [5]Action Items
          3. [6]Info Share
          4. [7]RADAR and Active Work Review
          5. [8]i18n-request review templates
          6. [9]interactive tests
          7. [10]AOB?
      * [11]Summary of Action Items
      * [12]Summary of Resolutions
      __________________________________________________________

    trackbot, prepare teleconference

    <agendabot> clear agenda

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

    [13]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

      [13] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

    action-806?

    <trackbot> action-806 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard
    on a template for fpwd request boilerplate -- due 2019-06-06 --
    OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/806

      [14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/806

    action-832?

    <trackbot> action-832 -- Addison Phillips to Check with Unicode
    ESC and UTC on CSS 337: can emoji be EA Width of Ambiguous --
    due 2019-09-26 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/832

      [15] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/832

    close action-832

    <trackbot> Closed action-832.

    action-850?

    <trackbot> action-850 -- Addison Phillips to Ping xfq@ about
    ttml2 review progress and ask ttml2 for an extension -- due
    2020-01-16 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [16]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/850

      [16] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/850

    close action-850

    <trackbot> Closed action-850.

    <atsushi>
    [17]https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/89#issuecomment-57517616
    9

      [17] https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/89#issuecomment-575176169

Info Share

    richard: xfq raised a bunch of issues in a single issue

    addison: in our repo or theirs?

    richard: not sure; need to tease them apart and send them

    atsushi: think it is in i18n

    <r12a>
    [18]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/86#issuecomment-
    568343266

      [18] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/86#issuecomment-568343266

    addison: seem to be issues; how to handle

    <scribe> ACTION: richard: review ttml issues found in request
    issue 86 and send findings by next week

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-851 - Review ttml issues found in
    request issue 86 and send findings by next week [on Richard
    Ishida - due 2020-01-23].

    addison: file the with ttml pending wg review?

    richard: can do
    ... just accepted a pull request from someone working on arabic
    layout requests document

    <scribe> ... new editor?

RADAR and Active Work Review

    [19]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

      [19] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

    screen capture

    addison: I read it but didn't find any issues

    atsushi: made a comment

    <atsushi>
    [20]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/87#issuecomment-
    574453160

      [20] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/87#issuecomment-574453160

    richard: putting comments in the i18n-request is not the
    process

    holding screen capture pending bert's review

i18n-request review templates

    richard: just before xmas set up repo and copied items across
    to make our new radar
    ... we haven't told anyone yet to contact us by raising issue
    there

    <r12a>
    [21]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/new/choose

      [21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/new/choose

    richard: to enable, need to create templates
    ... did that
    ... see link, changed a bit since email
    ... 4 types
    ... different sets of labels based on forms
    ... if you click on FPWD
    ... some labels provided

    addison: looks good

    atsushi: possible to include diff from previous release
    ... such as html diff

    <atsushi>
    [22]https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#rec-modify

      [22] https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#rec-modify

    <r12a> [23]https://www.w3.org/International/review-request

      [23] https://www.w3.org/International/review-request

    richard: changed request a review page also
    ... did add a link to the radar and a link to language
    enablement index from the wg home page
    ... raising its profile; starting to look useful

    <scribe> ACTION: addison: send an email to chairs announcing
    new review request process (pending richard's ping)

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-852 - Send an email to chairs
    announcing new review request process (pending richard's ping)
    [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-01-23].

interactive tests

    richard: we have a test suite
    ... it is designed to conform to webplat expectations
    ... a bit of a pain to be completely rigorous
    ... if you generate quick tests for gap analysis
    ... so: how to make things easier
    ... tests where you want to test the same thing in many
    languages, etc.
    ... have to create loads and loads of files
    ... takes a long time and very fiddely
    ... so I came up with something a while ago
    ... called the "exploratory tests"
    ... not helpful because had to create tests and they were fixed

    <r12a>
    [24]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-line
    %E2%80%90break-&-word%E2%80%90break

      [24] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-line‐break-&-word‐break

    richard: since then, illustrated by above

    <r12a> [25]https://w3c.github.io/typography/

      [25] https://w3c.github.io/typography/

    <r12a>
    [26]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-hyph
    ens

      [26] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-hyphens

    <r12a>
    [27]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-hyph
    ens

      [27] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-hyphens

    <r12a>
    [28]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-text
    -justify

      [28] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-text-justify

    <r12a>
    [29]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-::fi
    rst-letter

      [29] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-::first-letter

    <r12a>
    [30]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-init
    ial-letter

      [30] 
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-initial-letter

    <addison_> addison: will there be documentation?

    <addison_> richard: thinking about it

    <addison_> ... have doc for gap analysis for normal tests

    <addison_> ... wondering if we should tell anyone about this
    vs. using the typical tests

AOB?

    <addison_> najib: w3c home page is being renewed

    <addison_> ... want to raise to system/comms about using best
    practices

    <addison_> ACTION: najib: give system/comms team guidance on
    i18n best practices to make new home page readily localizable

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-853 - Give system/comms team guidance
    on i18n best practices to make new home page readily
    localizable [on Najib Tounsi - due 2020-01-23].

    <addison_> addison: thanks for raising

    <addison_> richard: been running the new notification system in
    parallel to existing one

    <addison_> ... working perfectly

    <addison_> ... so will get dom to switch over to the new
    notifications

    <addison_> ... don't have to put i18n labels in existing repos

    <addison_> addison: includes whatwg?

    <addison_> richard: some of them

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: addison: send an email to chairs announcing new
    review request process (pending richard's ping)
    [NEW] ACTION: najib: give system/comms team guidance on i18n
    best practices to make new home page readily localizable
    [NEW] ACTION: richard: review ttml issues found in request
    issue 86 and send findings by next week

Summary of Resolutions

    [End of minutes]

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