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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Jan 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
JcK, atsushi, addison, Bert, Richard, najib
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


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Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-806?

<trackbot> action-806 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard on a template for fpwd request boilerplate -- due 2019-06-06 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/806

action-832?

<trackbot> action-832 -- Addison Phillips to Check with Unicode ESC and UTC on CSS 337: can emoji be EA Width of Ambiguous -- due 2019-09-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/832

close action-832

<trackbot> Closed action-832.

action-850?

<trackbot> action-850 -- Addison Phillips to Ping xfq@ about ttml2 review progress and ask ttml2 for an extension -- due 2020-01-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/850

close action-850

<trackbot> Closed action-850.

<atsushi> https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/89#issuecomment-575176169

Info Share

richard: xfq raised a bunch of issues in a single issue

addison: in our repo or theirs?

richard: not sure; need to tease them apart and send them

atsushi: think it is in i18n

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/86#issuecomment-568343266

addison: seem to be issues; how to handle

<scribe> ACTION: richard: review ttml issues found in request issue 86 and send findings by next week

<trackbot> Created ACTION-851 - Review ttml issues found in request issue 86 and send findings by next week [on Richard Ishida - due 2020-01-23].

addison: file the with ttml pending wg review?

richard: can do
... just accepted a pull request from someone working on arabic layout requests document

<scribe> ... new editor?

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

screen capture

addison: I read it but didn't find any issues

atsushi: made a comment

<atsushi> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/87#issuecomment-574453160

richard: putting comments in the i18n-request is not the process

holding screen capture pending bert's review

i18n-request review templates

richard: just before xmas set up repo and copied items across to make our new radar
... we haven't told anyone yet to contact us by raising issue there

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/new/choose

richard: to enable, need to create templates
... did that
... see link, changed a bit since email
... 4 types
... different sets of labels based on forms
... if you click on FPWD
... some labels provided

addison: looks good

atsushi: possible to include diff from previous release
... such as html diff

<atsushi> https://www.w3.org/2019/Process-20190301/#rec-modify

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/review-request

richard: changed request a review page also
... did add a link to the radar and a link to language enablement index from the wg home page
... raising its profile; starting to look useful

<scribe> ACTION: addison: send an email to chairs announcing new review request process (pending richard's ping)

<trackbot> Created ACTION-852 - Send an email to chairs announcing new review request process (pending richard's ping) [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-01-23].

interactive tests

richard: we have a test suite
... it is designed to conform to webplat expectations
... a bit of a pain to be completely rigorous
... if you generate quick tests for gap analysis
... so: how to make things easier
... tests where you want to test the same thing in many languages, etc.
... have to create loads and loads of files
... takes a long time and very fiddely
... so I came up with something a while ago
... called the "exploratory tests"
... not helpful because had to create tests and they were fixed

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-line%E2%80%90break-&-word%E2%80%90break

richard: since then, illustrated by above

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/typography/

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-hyphens

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-hyphens

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-text-justify

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-::first-letter

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-tests/wiki/Test-script-for-initial-letter

<addison_> addison: will there be documentation?

<addison_> richard: thinking about it

<addison_> ... have doc for gap analysis for normal tests

<addison_> ... wondering if we should tell anyone about this vs. using the typical tests

AOB?

<addison_> najib: w3c home page is being renewed

<addison_> ... want to raise to system/comms about using best practices

<addison_> ACTION: najib: give system/comms team guidance on i18n best practices to make new home page readily localizable

<trackbot> Created ACTION-853 - Give system/comms team guidance on i18n best practices to make new home page readily localizable [on Najib Tounsi - due 2020-01-23].

<addison_> addison: thanks for raising

<addison_> richard: been running the new notification system in parallel to existing one

<addison_> ... working perfectly

<addison_> ... so will get dom to switch over to the new notifications

<addison_> ... don't have to put i18n labels in existing repos

<addison_> addison: includes whatwg?

<addison_> richard: some of them

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: send an email to chairs announcing new review request process (pending richard's ping)
[NEW] ACTION: najib: give system/comms team guidance on i18n best practices to make new home page readily localizable
[NEW] ACTION: richard: review ttml issues found in request issue 86 and send findings by next week
 

Summary of Resolutions

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