- From: r12a <ishida@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 17:30:43 +0000
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https://www.w3.org/2017/11/16-i18n-minutes.html
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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
16 Nov 2017
[2]Agenda
[2]
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Nov/0007.html
Attendees
Present
addison, r12a, David, Steve, Bert
Regrets
JcK
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Agenda
2. [5]Action Items
3. [6]Info Share
4. [7]Radar
5. [8]What time is this meeting at?
6. [9]What we saw at TPAC 2017
7. [10]Promoting Charmod-Norm
8. [11]AOB?
* [12]Summary of Action Items
* [13]Summary of Resolutions
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trackbot, prepare teleconference
<scribe> ScribeNick: addison
Agenda
Action Items
[14]https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
[14] https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
action-664?
<trackbot> action-664 -- Addison Phillips to Produce updated
string-meta with additional text needed for fpwd by 2 weeks --
due 2017-10-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/664
[15] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/664
close action-664
<trackbot> Closed action-664.
action-673?
<trackbot> action-673 -- Bert Bos to Forward remaining
low-vision-needs comments -- due 2017-11-02 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/673
[16] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/673
bert: did yesterday
richard: how many?
bert: 4 I believe
richard: is there i18n-comment on that repo?
bert: I used it
close action-673
<trackbot> Closed action-673.
<scribe> ACTION: richard to check low-vision-needs comments are
notifying properly
<trackbot> Created ACTION-683 - Check low-vision-needs comments
are notifying properly [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-11-23].
action-674?
<trackbot> action-674 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to
observer requests and in particular folks who'd like to
schedule tpac time -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[17]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/674
[17] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/674
close action-674
<trackbot> Closed action-674.
action-675?
<trackbot> action-675 -- Addison Phillips to Create agenda in
wiki for tpac -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/675
[18] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/675
close action-675
<trackbot> Closed action-675.
action-676?
<trackbot> action-676 -- Addison Phillips to Contact plh about
moving encoding to rec -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[19]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/676
[19] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/676
close action-676
<trackbot> Closed action-676.
action-677?
<trackbot> action-677 -- Addison Phillips to Invite angel et al
to propose a time to talk about clreq progress and gap analysis
-- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/677
[20] http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/677
close action-677
<trackbot> Closed action-677.
Info Share
Radar
[21]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
[21] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
device and sensors
richard: looked at all
... didn't see issues
addison: looked at one
<r12a> [22]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/500
[22] https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/500
richard: fantasai would like text decoration
... complicated because threads are long
<scribe> ACTION: addison to add text-decoration to radar
<trackbot> Created ACTION-684 - Add text-decoration to radar
[on Addison Phillips - due 2017-11-23].
addison: I'll check up on pubsub
[23]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
[23] http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
richard: clreq had an editor's call
... discussion of creating a mongolian tf
... at tpac
... updated html techniques
<r12a>
[24]https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-html?
open=direction
[24]
https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-html?open=direction
richard: if you click on that link (that one opens text
direction section)
<r12a>
[25]https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-html?
open=direction&open=inline
[25]
https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-html?open=direction&open=inline
richard: second link opens next level (inline)
... c an open as many levels as you want
... just have open= and id
... ids are listed
<r12a> ACTION: Richard to add links to ids in HTML authoring
techniques page
<trackbot> Created ACTION-685 - Add links to ids in html
authoring techniques page [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-11-23].
What time is this meeting at?
<r12a> [26]https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html
[26] https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html
richard: keep at administrativa there
... instead of agenda
What we saw at TPAC 2017
<scribe> ACTION: addison to update agenda using the link only
<trackbot> Created ACTION-686 - Update agenda using the link
only [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-11-23].
[27]https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/2017TPACAgenda
[27] https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/2017TPACAgenda
[28]https://www.w3.org/2017/11/06-i18n-minutes.html
[28] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/06-i18n-minutes.html
[29]https://www.w3.org/2017/11/07-i18n-minutes.html
[29] https://www.w3.org/2017/11/07-i18n-minutes.html
encoding
our /upcoming points to a WD that points to WHATWG, and /ed
points directly to WhatWG doc
richard: PLH pointed out that encoding has 900000 tests in AC
meeting
<r12a>
[30]http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/inline-bidi-marku
p/index.en
[30]
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/inline-bidi-markup/index.en
agreed to send for wide review
richard: main thing is I took out css shim
... because ff and chrome support dir isolation
... spoke to safari implementors
... they have a switch to turn on
... spoke with edge developers as well
... list of bugs to upvote on edge
<scribe> ACTION: richard to send list of edge bugs to upvote
<trackbot> Created ACTION-687 - Send list of edge bugs to
upvote [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-11-23].
richard: ralph swick made a presentation about i18n at ac
meeting
... talking about i18n sponsorship program
... that's a program to find sponsors to expand resources
available to i18n
... make proposals in a task force
... some projects related to ed and outreach
... dev support
... language enablement
... which is language matrix we talked about, filling it in
more
... so preso put before AC asking for support
... wanted sponsorship not used for core but as addition
clreq
richard: setting up a TF for mongolian
... also talked about tibetan
... needs a review
... on plenary day
... gave talk about language enablement stuff (matrix)
<r12a>
[31]https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss/wiki/Analysing-support-
for-text-layout-on-the-Web
[31]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss/wiki/Analysing-support-for-text-layout-on-the-Web
richard: posted minutes for breakout
... thursday I met with ttml
... looked at imsc issues and ttml2 issues
... lot of progress
... the "withBase" value of rubyAlign is now at risk
... a feature in ruby layout, if same number ruby as base, then
stick one above the other
... which is very rare
... reason there, lambda cap did that, but netflix was there
and wanted to do centering as default. more sensible
... put at risk
... of course there's an impl, but hope it goes away
... solved other issues
html
richard: input type=email
... wanted to make possible to put non-ascii on left hand side
of emails
... some talk of getting rid of that type
... didn't seem to happen
... HTML WG agreed to add non-ascii on lhs
(the local part of the email address)
scribe: some work to harmonsize with whatwg
dpub summit
richard: no i18n there, but interesting
Promoting Charmod-Norm
[32]http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/
[32] http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/
[33]http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/#matchingAlgorithm
[33] http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/#matchingAlgorithm
[34]http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/
[34] http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/
AOB?
no call next week
everyone read charmod and string meta
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: addison to add text-decoration to radar
[NEW] ACTION: addison to update agenda using the link only
[NEW] ACTION: Richard to add links to ids in HTML authoring
techniques page
[NEW] ACTION: richard to check low-vision-needs comments are
notifying properly
[NEW] ACTION: richard to send list of edge bugs to upvote
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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