Internationalization Working Group Teleconference -- 16 Nov 2017

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<scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-664?

<trackbot> action-664 -- Addison Phillips to Produce updated string-meta with additional text needed for fpwd by 2 weeks -- due 2017-10-19 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/664

close action-664

<trackbot> Closed action-664.

action-673?

<trackbot> action-673 -- Bert Bos to Forward remaining low-vision-needs comments -- due 2017-11-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/673

bert: did yesterday

richard: how many?

bert: 4 I believe

richard: is there i18n-comment on that repo?

bert: I used it

close action-673

<trackbot> Closed action-673.

<scribe> ACTION: richard to check low-vision-needs comments are notifying properly

<trackbot> Created ACTION-683 - Check low-vision-needs comments are notifying properly [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-11-23].

action-674?

<trackbot> action-674 -- Addison Phillips to Respond to observer requests and in particular folks who'd like to schedule tpac time -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/674

close action-674

<trackbot> Closed action-674.

action-675?

<trackbot> action-675 -- Addison Phillips to Create agenda in wiki for tpac -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/675

close action-675

<trackbot> Closed action-675.

action-676?

<trackbot> action-676 -- Addison Phillips to Contact plh about moving encoding to rec -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/676

close action-676

<trackbot> Closed action-676.

action-677?

<trackbot> action-677 -- Addison Phillips to Invite angel et al to propose a time to talk about clreq progress and gap analysis -- due 2017-11-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/677

close action-677

<trackbot> Closed action-677.

Info Share

Radar

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

device and sensors

richard: looked at all
... didn't see issues

addison: looked at one

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/500

richard: fantasai would like text decoration
... complicated because threads are long

<scribe> ACTION: addison to add text-decoration to radar

<trackbot> Created ACTION-684 - Add text-decoration to radar [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-11-23].

addison: I'll check up on pubsub

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: clreq had an editor's call
... discussion of creating a mongolian tf
... at tpac
... updated html techniques

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-html?open=direction

richard: if you click on that link (that one opens text direction section)

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/authoring-html?open=direction&open=inline

richard: second link opens next level (inline)
... c an open as many levels as you want
... just have open= and id
... ids are listed

<r12a> ACTION: Richard to add links to ids in HTML authoring techniques page

<trackbot> Created ACTION-685 - Add links to ids in html authoring techniques page [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-11-23].

What time is this meeting at?

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/2017/09/i18n-meeting-info.html

richard: keep at administrativa there
... instead of agenda

What we saw at TPAC 2017

<scribe> ACTION: addison to update agenda using the link only

<trackbot> Created ACTION-686 - Update agenda using the link only [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-11-23].

https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/2017TPACAgenda

https://www.w3.org/2017/11/06-i18n-minutes.html

https://www.w3.org/2017/11/07-i18n-minutes.html

encoding

our /upcoming points to a WD that points to WHATWG, and /ed points directly to WhatWG doc

richard: PLH pointed out that encoding has 900000 tests in AC meeting

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/inline-bidi-markup/index.en

agreed to send for wide review

richard: main thing is I took out css shim
... because ff and chrome support dir isolation
... spoke to safari implementors
... they have a switch to turn on
... spoke with edge developers as well
... list of bugs to upvote on edge

<scribe> ACTION: richard to send list of edge bugs to upvote

<trackbot> Created ACTION-687 - Send list of edge bugs to upvote [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-11-23].

richard: ralph swick made a presentation about i18n at ac meeting
... talking about i18n sponsorship program
... that's a program to find sponsors to expand resources available to i18n
... make proposals in a task force
... some projects related to ed and outreach
... dev support
... language enablement
... which is language matrix we talked about, filling it in more
... so preso put before AC asking for support
... wanted sponsorship not used for core but as addition

clreq

richard: setting up a TF for mongolian
... also talked about tibetan
... needs a review
... on plenary day
... gave talk about language enablement stuff (matrix)

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss/wiki/Analysing-support-for-text-layout-on-the-Web

richard: posted minutes for breakout
... thursday I met with ttml
... looked at imsc issues and ttml2 issues
... lot of progress
... the "withBase" value of rubyAlign is now at risk
... a feature in ruby layout, if same number ruby as base, then stick one above the other
... which is very rare
... reason there, lambda cap did that, but netflix was there and wanted to do centering as default. more sensible
... put at risk
... of course there's an impl, but hope it goes away
... solved other issues

html

richard: input type=email
... wanted to make possible to put non-ascii on left hand side of emails
... some talk of getting rid of that type
... didn't seem to happen
... HTML WG agreed to add non-ascii on lhs

(the local part of the email address)

scribe: some work to harmonsize with whatwg

dpub summit

richard: no i18n there, but interesting

Promoting Charmod-Norm

http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/

http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/#matchingAlgorithm

http://aphillips.github.io/charmod-norm/

AOB?

no call next week

everyone read charmod and string meta

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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Nov 2017

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