ISSUE-124: Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs

WHATWG-blacklist

Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Normative Reference Policy
Raised by:
Arthur Barstow
Opened on:
2014-09-08
Description:
If a group has consensus that an "external reference" (such as a WHATWG spec) meets the group's requirements, then with respect to publishing a Technical, such a reference should be permitted. However, based on my conversations with Consortium staff last week, the Director will NOT permit a Proposed Recommendation to include a normative reference to a WHATWG spec.

Although I disagree with the Director's position here (because I think the processes should defer to the opinion of the group and implementors), the Issue is the Normative Reference Policy [NRP] should explicitly identify those external groups the Director has explicitly blacklisted. As such, and to help avoid confusion, set expectations, etc., NRP should be updated to explicitly blacklist WHATWG.
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Related emails:
  1. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-07)
  2. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-07)
  3. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-07)
  4. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-07)
  5. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-07)
  6. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-07)
  7. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-07)
  8. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-07)
  9. w3process-ISSUE-124 is closed, people (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-10-07)
  10. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jicheu@yahoo.fr on 2014-10-07)
  11. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com on 2014-10-07)
  12. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-07)
  13. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com on 2014-10-07)
  14. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com on 2014-10-07)
  15. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-07)
  16. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-06)
  17. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-06)
  18. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from domenic@domenicdenicola.com on 2014-10-06)
  19. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-06)
  20. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-06)
  21. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com on 2014-10-04)
  22. Re: Snapshots (was: w3process-ISSUE-124) (from Michael.Champion@microsoft.com on 2014-10-04)
  23. Re: Snapshots (was: w3process-ISSUE-124) (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-10-04)
  24. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from sfaulkner@paciellogroup.com on 2014-10-04)
  25. Re: Snapshots (was: w3process-ISSUE-124) (from cwilso@google.com on 2014-10-03)
  26. Re: Snapshots (was: w3process-ISSUE-124) (from bkardell@gmail.com on 2014-10-03)
  27. Snapshots (was: w3process-ISSUE-124) (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-10-03)
  28. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from ian@hixie.ch on 2014-10-03)
  29. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-10-03)
  30. Running off topic Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-10-03)
  31. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-10-03)
  32. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-10-03)
  33. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jicheu@yahoo.fr on 2014-10-03)
  34. Keeping the tone nice Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-10-03)
  35. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from appelquist@gmail.com on 2014-10-03)
  36. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from timbl@w3.org on 2014-10-03)
  37. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-10-02)
  38. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-10-02)
  39. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from timbl@w3.org on 2014-10-02)
  40. Re: Agenda Process Task Force Telcon on 30 September (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-09-23)
  41. agenda requests... (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-09-18)
  42. Going off-topic Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-09-09)
  43. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-09-09)
  44. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-09)
  45. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-09-09)
  46. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-09)
  47. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jicheu@yahoo.fr on 2014-09-08)
  48. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-09-08)
  49. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-08)
  50. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-09-08)
  51. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-08)
  52. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-09-08)
  53. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-08)
  54. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from chaals@yandex-team.ru on 2014-09-08)
  55. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-09-08)
  56. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from singer@apple.com on 2014-09-08)
  57. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from rubys@intertwingly.net on 2014-09-08)
  58. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-09-08)
  59. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-08)
  60. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-09-08)
  61. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-08)
  62. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-09-08)
  63. RE: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com on 2014-09-08)
  64. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from jeff@w3.org on 2014-09-08)
  65. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from art.barstow@gmail.com on 2014-09-08)
  66. RE: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from Virginie.Galindo@gemalto.com on 2014-09-08)
  67. Re: w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from karl@la-grange.net on 2014-09-08)
  68. w3process-ISSUE-124 (WHATWG-blacklist): Normative Reference policy should explicitly black list WHATWG specs [Normative Reference Policy] (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2014-09-08)

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This issue got no support on the mailing list, none in the AB or TF, nobody thinks it is a good idea.

Charles McCathie Nevile, 30 Sep 2014, 16:24:53

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