Minutes Telecon 2012-10-24
- Resolved: Allow full syntactic flexibility in ordering for box-shadow. Keep same requirements on what’s required in the declaration (at least 2 lengths). Edit CSS3 Backgrounds and Borders accordingly.
- Discussed disallowing viewport-relative units in
@page declarations that size the initial containing block. Also discussed whether such units are resolved at computed value time (relative to ICB) or used value time (relative to the page). Plan to ask for feedback from CSS-to-print/PDF implementers, since they have more experience / use cases than browser vendors do.
- Discussed proposed edits to
@supports to make invalid parenthesized expressions also evaluate to false, rather than invalidating the rule.
- Discussed Tab’s proposed draft for display-inside/display-outside/etc. Will return to the topic at TPAC. Generally people feel this makes sense. Some concern about being incompatible with Bert’s mental model of how CSS works, and whether authors actually need the property split.
- Resolved: BOM takes precedence over HTTP. Errata CSS2.1, edit CSS3 Syntax to fix this.
- Discussed rules for fragmenting inline blocks.
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Minutes Telecon 2012-10-17
- Discussed forwards-compatible parsing rules for
@supports.
- Resolved: Accept the proposed rules (below) for line decoration averaging, but change line-throughs to recalculate whenever computed
font-size changes.
- Status update on UTR50.
- Resolved: Publish Grid Layout WD.
- Discussed agenda for TPAC.
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Minutes Telecon 2012-10-10
- Resolved: Defer
@document to Level 4 due to open issues.
- Resolved: Defer issue on
@import syntax for @supports queries due to lack of proposal.
- Resolved: Publish Last Call Working Draft of CSS3 Conditional Rules.
- Resolved: Put
clip property into the Masking module.
- Resolved: Accept the definitions for additional baselines in the Flexbox spec.
- Resolved: i18nWG to maintain the informative
@counter-style rules.
- Discussed circular dependencies between flows
- Discussed multi-column intrinsic sizing. See proposed changes to CSS3 Multi-col and discussion of intrinsic sizing rules.
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Minutes Telecon 2012-10-05
- Test the Web Forward registration is now open for Paris (26-27 Oct 2012)!
- Resolved: The three profiles (TV, Mobile, Print) will be moved off REC-track into Notes.
- Discussed case-sensitivity of user-defined CSS identifiers.
- Discussed splitting
transform-origin into x/y/z sub-properties
- Discussed making fixed-positioned elements always form stacking contexts.
- Discussed position of text decoration lines across font size changes.
- Reminder:
@supports is going to L ast Call next week unless people find blocking issues, so don’t forget to review (esp. OM changes)!!
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CSS Publication Updates September 2012
The CSS Working Group has published some cool new stuff!
- CSS Flexible Box Module Candidate Recommendation
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Flexbox is a new layout model for CSS, and might just be the most densely-awesome spec the CSSWG has produced. The contents of a flex container can be laid out in any direction, can be reordered, can be aligned and justified within their container, and can “flex” their sizes and positions to respond to the available space. We expect this model to be particularly useful for UI layouts.
This module is now officially a W3C-approved Candidate Recommendation, meaning it’s ready for implementation. Significant changes since the Last Call Working Draft are listed in the Changes section and include a thorough overhaul of the examples and intros, to make the spec easier and more interesting to read for authors. We encourage you to check it out, implement it, use it, write tests for it, and, as usual, send any feedback to www-style.
- CSS Image Values and Replaced Content Level 4 First Public Working Draft
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CSS4 Images builds on CSS3 Images, adding feature requests such as
This is an early-stage Working Draft and these new features are extremely unstable (as you might notice from all the bright red “issues” noted inline)! Feedback is welcome as usual on www-style.
- CSS Intrinsic & Extrinsic Sizing Level 3 First Public Working Draft
- The new Intrinsic Sizing module introduces additional
width and height keywords to trigger different types of auto-sizing in CSS layouts, such as:
fit-content, to force shrink-to-fit sizing on any element
fill-available, to force standard “fill the available space” block-element sizing on things that typically shrink-to-fit
max-content, to size elements around their content without line breaks
contain-floats, to encompass all descendant in-flow content and as well as floats.
These features were formerly in Appendix D of CSS3 Writing Modes. David Baron has written a bit about them on his blog.
- CSS Transforms Module updated Working Draft
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Transforms allows elements styled with CSS to be transformed in two-dimensional or three-dimensional space. Changes since the last Working Draft are primarily clarifications and corrections, and are listed in the www-style announcement.
- CSS Conditional Rules Module Level 3 updated Working Draft
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Conditional Rules Level 3 defines the @media (which allows the use of media queries), @document (which allows URL-specific CSS rules), and @supports rules (which enable feature queries in CSS). The most significant change since the previous WD is the addition of CSSOM APIs for @supports rules and feature queries.
We expect the @document rule will be deferred to the next level (due to all the open issues on the interpretation of URLs) and that the next publication will be a Last Call Working Draft, so reviews and feedback are requested ASAP.
As always, please send feedback to the (archived) public mailing list www-style@w3.org with the appropriate spec code ([css3-flexbox], [css4-images], [css3-sizing], [css3-transforms], or [css3-conditional]) and your comment topic in the subject line. (Alternatively, you can email one of the editors and ask them to forward your comment.)
Minutes Telecon 2012-09-26
- Resolved: Add Brian Birtles (Mozilla) as editor of CSS Masking
- Resolved: Minimum size for running reftests is 600×600; tests should be written to fit within that size. Recommend that UAs use a rectangular viewport that is larger than that if possible, to avoid missing errors due to symmetry of square viewports.
- Resolved: Publish FPWD of CSS Counter Styles Level 3 (split out from CSS3 Lists).
- Discussed interpretation of IRIs in
url() notation
- Discussed shrink-to-fit sizing of multi-column elements
- Discussed relationship of line grid module and line layout module.
- Noted specs missing from prioritization lists.
- Plan to take CSS3 Conditional Rules to Last Call on October 10th, please review and file any issues before then.
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Minutes Telecon 2012-09-19
- Discussed Tokyo F2F dates; currently aiming at June 5-7.
- Discussed WG reviews of SVG2 and DOM 3 Events.
- Resolved: Accept Anton’s proposed edits for defining “block container element” with editorial reorg of defining paragraph by fantasai. Open issue on whether/how “principal box” needs to be defined.
- Resolved: Change all CSS module shortnames to form
css-foo-N instead of css3-foo.
- Resolved: Unversioned shortname shifts to next level of a spec when it reaches Snapshot maturity.
- Discussed viewport size of reftests.
- Discussed prioritization of effort within CSSWG.
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Minutes Telecon 2012-09-12
- John Daggett summarized the state of the font load event proposals. He is incorporating feedback this week and plans to publish an updated WD soon.
- Resolved: Accept CSS2.1 edits for the effect of
overflow on table boxes in Anton’s proposal.
- CSS2.1 edits up for review in Anton’s proposal to introduce “block container element” as a term.
- Resolved: Boxes whose contents break above the bottom of the page are drawn to the bottom of the page and consume height to the bottom of the page.
- Resolved: Mark the non-2.1 Counter Styles as at-risk in Level 3.
- Co-chairs have sent out a prioritization / implementation interest survey to WG members; aggregate results will be made public once compiled.
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Minutes Telecon 2012-09-05
- Proposed that baseline of a scrollable
inline-flex box be same as one with ‘overflow: visible’.
- Resolved: Publish FPWD of CSS4 Images.
- Discussed lack of namespaced selector API in
querySelector().
- Resolved: Publish FPWD of Intrinsic Sizing level 3.
- Resolved: Split
CSSConditionRule to have superclass CSSGroupRule.
- Resolved: Publish updated WD of CSS3 Conditional Rules
- Discussed process to survey WG for priorities.
- Discussed implementation status of Selectors 4, possibility of splitting spec into Level 4 and Level 5.
- Discussed communicating the non-existence of CSS4 and harmonizing all the grandfathered CSS spec shortnames to match CSS modularization and levelling practices.
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CSS Publication Updates August 2012
The CSS Working Group has published updated Working Drafts of the following CSS modules: Fonts Level 3, Regions, Fragmentation Level 3, Selectors Level 4. Additionally, Values and Units Level 3 has been published as a Candidate Recommendation. (The Flexible Box Layout Module was approved by the CSSWG earlier, but is still waiting for the W3C Director’s approval.)
- CSS Fonts Module Level 3 updated Working Draft
- Fonts Level 3 covers CSS3 features relating to font selection and feature controls.
Changes since the last Working Draft are listed in the Changes section.
- CSS Regions Module updated Working Draft
- Regions adds the ability to combine disparate elements into a single flow and to direct that flow through multiple boxes, and defines a processing model for laying out such chained boxes. Changes since the last Working Draft primarily affect the object model for regions, and are listed in the Changes section.
- CSS Fragmentation Module Level 3 updated Working Draft
- Fragmentation Level 3 defines how content is broken across multiple “fragmentation containers”, e.g. pages or columns. It also defines some properties to control where such breaks occur. Changes since the last Working Draft are listed in the Changes section and include the addition of
recto and verso values for page-breaking. This is expected to be the last Working Draft before Last Call.
- Selectors Level 4 updated Working Draft
- Selectors Level 4 defines patterns that match against elements in a tree, and are used to select elements in CSS style rules and the DOM’s
querySelector and related APIs. Changes from the previous draft include the addition of a scoped selector section, wildcard matching and language lists in the :lang() pseudo-class, new drag and drop pseudo-classes, a new :user-error pseudo-class, a syntax change to the subject indicator, and a switch from a :column() pseudo-class to a column combinator. Feedback is requested, particularly on the changes.
- CSS Values and Units Module Level 3 Candidate Recommendation
- Values and Units Level 3 covers new units like
rem (like em, but always relative to the root element’s font size) and vh (percent of viewport height) as well as the calc(), toggle(), and attr() functional notations. W3C encourages implementations of this module, and welcomes feedback resulting from such implementation. Changes since the Last Call Working Draft are listed in the Changes section.
As always, please send feedback to the (archived) public mailing list www-style@w3.org with the appropriate spec code ([css3-fonts], [css3-regions], [css3-break], [selectors4], or [css3-values]) and your comment topic in the subject line. (Alternatively, you can email one of the editors and ask them to forward your comment.)
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