CSS WG Blog – Minutes San Francisco F2F 2016-05-09 Part II: Media Queries, Sizing, Flexbox, Containment, Content, Testing

Minutes San Francisco F2F 2016-05-09 Part II: Media Queries, Sizing, Flexbox, Containment, Content, Testing

By Dael Jackson June 10, 2016 (Permalink)
Categories: resolutions

Discussion around syntax for overflow (scrolling vs paged) MQ, and possibly having a multi-value MQ.
Discussed difference between returning false and unknown
Discussed the need for a way to truly negate a MQ to createtwo complementary code blocks, since (given unknown being different from false) the current syntax doesn’t give that ability.

Resolved: Intrinsic sizes that don’t require layout to recalculate are treated as definite.

The decision on how to handle percentages will wait on use cases.
The group discussed how to handle layout when there’s a column multi-line flexbox that’s floating and has a column wrap.
- There’s a fast and performant and clearly broken and useless approach done by Chrome or doing actual layout as done by Edge.
- People were uncertain which approach was best and concerned that whatever is decided would still work years down the line.
- TabAtkins wanted more time to think about a solution, so the discussion was tabled.

The conversation started based around an issue that, as written, cross-references have the potential to create infinite loops.
- plinss suggested solving this using a similar approach to how footnotes are handled traditionally and Florian agreed to investigate it.
The group then moved onto a more philosophical discussion on the future of the spec. Topics discussed included:
- How can we ensure that browser vendors are okay with the approach so that they can implement it in the future?
- Is the spec too big to publish?
- How much attention should this spec get as it’s not likely to be prioritized and/or implemented by browsers? Or should browsers be more interested in this?
- Should epub have a special time on a F2F agenda like the FX meeting slots?

Resolved: Drop requirement for author or reviewer metadata
Resolved: Move to primary link to spec+section being inferred from directory structure. Supplemental links must be inline.
Resolved: spec-shortname/N-levels-of-ignored-subdirectory-names/frag-id-of-section
Resolved: Remove any title requirement, other than having one (implied by validity of HTML requirement)
Resolved: testharness.js tests don’t need a meta assert (but reftests still do)
Moving to Github, move all of our tests to WPT repo, and stopping future use of Shepherd were discussed, but tabled for future conversation.