Meeting minutes
Accessibility of machine learning and generative AI.
jasonjgw: Notes catch-up discussion just ahead of this call
scott_h: Josh has additional framing to contribute; focus on reliability qualitative assessment
scott_h: Once we review we'll move it to github
josh: Yes
scott_h: Can proceed weekly ...
jasonjgw: Relating ...
jasonjgw: Noted another reasoning model; and we should expect more and more of them ...
jasonjgw: Improved reasoning appears to be fruitful just now
jasonjgw: Programming, math tasks, also some more generic testing
jasonjgw: e.g. OpenAI model that solves problems in an area it was not trained on
jasonjgw: Suggests we could see a11y support in areas not trained
raja: Some models have become better at atypical speech
raja: In general AI has become better at this
jasonjgw: Good news; useful to know
<Joshue108> thank you raja
josh: ack josh
Will be looking at different domains; e.g. remediation as current doc
josh: also we will be skeptical
jasonjgw: Also notes regulatory changes with new U.S. administration
jasonjgw: However does not affect exdpectations e.g. in E.U.
<Joshue108> JS: Was there any regulation?
jasonjgw: Notes Biden Executive Order requiring reporting re safety, etc., has been rescinded
jasonjgw: Asks whether Australia has made decisions?
scoDiscussion, but seems on hold pending elections
jasonjgw: Anything else we should note today?
raja: Q: U.S. Government actively trying to remove DEI
raja: Intellectual disabilities -- there is overlap in DEI
raja: So hiring practices no longer include DEI goals
raja: difference between inclusivity and accessibility
jasonjgw: Some ML application?
raja: Yes
jasonjgw: So less incentive to make sure models appropriately consider in candidate pool
raja: Yes, one possibility. Not clear
raja: What long term impact is we don't yet know
josh: Yes, many concerns
<Joshue108> Good points Raja
jasonjgw: Traditionally we think of a11y considerations in tech
jasonjgw: Now have emerging class of apps that are making decisions, or influencing decisions about pwds -- a potential source of discrimination unrelated to UI
jasonjgw: e.g. eval of video of interviews
<Joshue108> JS: Has anyone grabbed a copy of Project 2025?
<Joshue108> JS: For the disability access
<Joshue108> JS: Raja - no this is on my to do list
<Joshue108> JS: Would you please?
<Joshue108> A good road map.
<Joshue108> JOC: What is that?
<Joshue108> JS: Its a Heritage foundation report think tank - under prep as the operation plan for the new republication administration would hit the ground running
<Joshue108> So they can function right from the get go.
jasonjgw: Notes we sometimes cite relevant regs in W3C docs
<Joshue108> JW: Regarding the intersection of regulation and policy about AI regulation in the EU.
jasonjgw: Asks Josh about related conversations in E.U.?
josh Unsure
Joshue108: On a personal level my son's school is embracing AI as part of the toolset he can use in school
Joshue108: What they do will likely be damage mitigation
Joshue108: I'm concerned on impact on young minds
raja: Will be presenting trying to differentiate AI Accessibility re pedagogy
raja: e.g. improving English skills with AI assistance
raja: Universities will decide which classes can and cannot use AI
raja: currently class by class
Joshue108: Clarifies university? High school?
raja: University
scott: I teach a course at University; It's OK to use AI as long as one declares it's use
scott: Notes we're using AI to discover undeclared AI use
scott: For now AI use remains somewhat obvious--so not as problematic as it's likely to become
jasonjgw: Expecting tutoring apps will become cheaper to develop
jasonjgw: Expecting interactive dialog approach likely
jasonjgw: If there's no script involved, we need to bear in mind with natural lang models; this is different from our previous discussions
jasonjgw: Any additional consideration for Josh's next note revision?
jasonjgw: OK. Will bring back next week
jasonjgw: Notes CTAUR is now published and announced
Announcement here: https://
scott: Word is spreading fast and lots of compliments already!
<Roy_Ruoxi> wai news
<Roy_Ruoxi> w3c news
Calendar
jasonjgw: I'm away the 12th, Scott will facilitate
janina: I'm away first week of March