W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-IG/WG

30 November 2022

Attendees

Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
Sebastian/McCool
Scribe
kaz, McCool

Meeting minutes

new members

Sebastian: Elodie Thieblin has joined as a Siemens participant; is semantic web expert

Sebastian: regarding invited experts, none, but we may be inviting a guest from Cologne interested in BACnet testing to TD call

Kaz: inviting people to public calls is ok, but make sure they can commit to patent policies, etc.

minutes

<kaz> Nov-23

Sebastian: review minutes from 23 Nov 2022

Sebastian: any objections to publishing?
… hearing none, will be approved and published

quick updates

IIWoT Workshop

Sebastian: we had proposed a keynote, but they required in-person attendance, which we cannot do
… resources, travel restrictions
… McCool has offered a remote presentation; no response yet

cancellations and schedule changes

Sebastian: testfest will be in two weeks; is a tentative schedule

McCool: we should have a resolution to finalize these times

proposal: fix testfest schedule (Eastern timezone): 8am M/T; 9am W; 10am T on Dec 12-15

RESOLUTION: fix testfest schedule (Eastern timezone): 8am Mon/Tue; 9am Wed; 10am Thu on Dec 12-15

McCool: let's update the general cancellation policy to include Jan 9; only have to mention exceptions to that

Sebastian: also there is a use case call scheduled for Dec 6

Lagally: would also be good to go over gaps for charter input; let's have the call, and I will chair

McCool: for now let's use the "canceled" Editor call logistics/calendar entry for this; I will try to clean up

Kaz: note that the current "Editors call" with the "canceled" label starts at 8am Eastern which is the expected time (=one hour later than the Marketing call)

McCool: also note that a lot of the calendar entries expire end of Jan; we will have to update at some point

Kaz: also for Marketing call need to update webex coordinate so Ege can be host; will be updating calendar

Schedule Changes

<kaz> wot repo - PR 1045

Sebastian: schedule changes
… see wot PR 1045

McCool: in summary, schedule changes to deal with delays in CR transition and to allow time for new WG charter

Kaz: generally ok with these changes, but please remember that we need to think about two schedules in parallel, one on this kind of spec generation during this Charter period and another on the WG Charter generation for the next period.

McCool: probably need a resolution as well to request a 3mo extension

proposal: request a 3m extension to our current WG charter in order to complete CR/PR transitions and to merge PR #1045 under the assumption of such an extension

<Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1045 : Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md

proposal: request from W3M a 3m extension to our current WG charter in order to complete CR/PR transitions and to merge PR #1045 under the assumption of such an extension

<Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1045 : Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md

proposal: merge PR #1045 under the assumption of a 3mo extension

<Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1045 : Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md

Lagally: these changes do have implications for members; some members may need to check with AC reps, etc.

McCool: definitely consider this notification; can send an email emphasizing it

Sebastian: ok with postponing the resolution to ask for an extension

McCool: suggest we ask for the extension in Dec once we see the CR transition is done

Kaz: W3C charter says that extensions less than 6mo can be at discretion of W3M

McCool: suggest we definitely discuss this in the main call after the testfest, which will be the last one this year

proposal: merge PR #1045 under the assumption of a 3mo extension

<Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1045 : Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md

RESOLUTION: merge PR #1045 under the assumption of a 3mo extension

<Github> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/1045 : Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md

publications

general situation

Sebastian: have talked already about CR transition status
… situation is generally that we have three deliverables ready for CR transition but we are still waiting
… although the request for Architecture as a little bit later than TD and Discovery
… we did have a meeting on Monday to clear up some i18n issues in Discovery

McCool: TD i18n discussion on Monday was only an implementation clarification

Profile

Sebastian: for profiles we are aiming for a candidate for use in the testfest

Lagally: mostly were discussing Arch in today's call, will be discussing Profile in tomorrow's call
… but we also need implementations that are candidates for being profile compliant; for the most part this should be easy, just adding the profile qualifier
… can discuss further in testing call
… also there are several PRs on the table for Profiles that need review

McCool: does doing a WD on Dec 8 still makes sense?

Lagally: I think after the testfest makes sense

McCool: also think we want to freeze the spec for the testfest after tomorrow's call

Lagally: how hard is it to publish a WD?

Kaz: should not be hard, since it's not FPWD, as long as it passes the testing tools

Lagally: ok, I do suggest we publish the WD this year if we can
… let's discuss in tomorrow's call

Sebastian: for testfest at a minimum we need a freeze for testing

Kaz: regarding IANA, still some fixup to do

McCool: also DID, but neither is a blocker

Sebastian: regarding Societal Impact Q...

McCool: will probably only get to it in Jan, right now at-risk gaps are my priority

Next WG Charter

Sebastian: proposing a call series Jan 16-20, cancel other meetings, have 4h of meetings to develop new WG charter
… we tried to reuse existing slots that are also in the sweet spot to allow people from all timezones
… hearing no objections, let's go ahead with this plan

TF review

Sebastian: anything to share

Discovery

McCool: small change to Discovery that updated CR candidate: UTF-8 -> Unicode code point order

Scripting API

Daniel: end of Jan want to publish updated Scripting API better aligned with Discovery

Architecture and Profile

Lagally: already mentioned Arch and Profile
… but want to clarify manual.csv

Summary of resolutions

  1. fix testfest schedule (Eastern timezone): 8am Mon/Tue; 9am Wed; 10am Thu on Dec 12-15
  2. merge PR #1045 under the assumption of a 3mo extension
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 196 (Thu Oct 27 17:06:44 2022 UTC).