W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-IG/WG

31 August 2022

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Koster, Sebastian
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz, mlagally

Meeting minutes

Minutes

<kaz> Aug-24

McCool: <reviewing the minutes of the previous call>
… We have to decide a few issues for TPAC.
… need to discuss demos
… suggest to publish

<no objections>

WoT WG rejoining procedure

McCool: we successfully completed the rejoin procedure
… we got 20 votes, but apparently lost half of our membership
… this is concerning, since we need 28 votes to get the new charter accepted
… there may not be enough support from W3C for the next charter

Kaz: deadline for joining is Sept 11. We should have some reminders before.

McCool: there may be delays due to vacation. Will send a reminder again

Kaz: every 2-3 weeks an automatic reminder is sent by the W3C Mailserver to AC reps

McCool: organisations may have left WoT

Kaz: let's start with participants in this call

Cancellations and updates

<kaz> mmc: next

<kaz> Cancellations

Kaz: next week we have "pre-TPAC" meetings, I want to send cancellations on the W3C calendar, however cannot reinstate a cancelled meeting
… there's no way to delete an entry, so the calendar shows two entries, one of which is cancelled
… next week: scripting and discovery is not cancelled
… marketing may happen

Lagally: let's NOT cancel architecture and profile next week

McCool: everything except TD is not cancelled

Kaz: suggest we not hold the usual WG calls when we do the TPAC pre and TPAC meetings. If really needed, of course we can still hold TF calls, though. If we really hold ordinary TF calls in addition to pre-TPAC, TPAC and post-TPAC weeks, we should be careful about the agenda for those meetings, and make sure we use the time in a productive manner.

McCool: we would have 4 additional hours next week - if testing and TD and main call are cancelled, we have the same number
… I agree with Kaz that we have to cancel meetings during TPAC

zoom vs. WebEx

McCool: mmc: During TPAC we use Zoom, is being allocated now.

McCool: next week on Sept 6th accessibility will join us and wants to use Zoom due to some features they need.
… all meetings on the pre TPAC, Demo session, post TPAC will be on Zoom.
… during TPAC I want a resolution whether we go forward with using Zoom

Kaz: you can use either mechanism for the pre-TPAC, TPAC meeting, and the post-TPAC - we have APA meeting who strongly prefer Zoom
… during TPAC, Zoom is allocated by the W3C Event Team. However, this time it would be better to use Zoom for the pre-TPAC meeting because we can have further discussions about TF calls later.

<McCool_> proposal: use Zoom for all pre-TPAC, TPAC, and post-TPAC meetings mentioned here: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2022

RESOLUTION: use Zoom for all pre-TPAC, TPAC, and post-the TPAC WoT meetings mentioned here: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2022

Delivery proposals for next charter

McCool: there are no other proposals except the ones that I created
… if I don't see other proposals by next Monday, I will add a few things, e.g. TD 2.0
… I have created a directory for TPAC - will prepare material for next week

<McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/PRESENTATIONS/2022-09-hybrid-f2f

<McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/main/proposals/deliverable-proposals

<McCool_> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/978

McCool: definitely 2.0 will go there, scripting, ...

Demos

McCool: we have a breakout session for demos.
… Mlagally any plans to do sth. together with Siemens?

McCool: unfortunately no bandwidth

McCool: NHK plans for a demo

Kaz: Endo-san will present hybrid cast-connect using TD for smart home

McCool: Toumura-san, are you planning to show your demo?

Toumura: yes

McCool: I also work on a home assistant demo

Publication

McCool: On the agenda for post TPAC we want to have some resolutions to finalise CR drafts and have a 2 week review period
… want to have a resolution for TD
… TD call is not happening next week
… we look into early November for PR transitions
… want to get it done by December
… where are we for Architecture?

Lagally: architecture is pretty stable, need to revisit TAG feedback

Testing

McCool: Prior to the resolution of the CR transition we have to complete implementation report

Lagally: will add Ample report to. tomorrow's arch call agenda

OPC-UA

McCool: Not quite sure if Sept 15 meeting takes place, need to check with Sebastian who is on vacation

DTDL

McCool: no updates

WoT-CG

McCool: need to define marketing / CG responsibilities
… need to finalise with a resolution

Kaz: as mentioned on marketing call I'm not confident to invite CG members to marketing TF - This might be perceived as elevating the marketing TF to a steering committee

McCool: I share this concern, will cancel next week's marketing call. It will be a WoT CG call with WoT CG membership
… if Ege wants a joint call, it should be a CG call with marketing members

Kaz: technically this might be possible, but they should use another telco coordinate.

McCool: I will cancel marketing call, Ege could allocate a new call if he wants a CG call.
… unfortunately I can't revert a cancellation.

TF reports

Scripting API

Daniel: no call

Discovery

McCool: we cleaned up 6 MRs in discovery, still 16 issues need to be resolved. We allocate 2 hours, need to clean up normative assertions.
… DNS-SD registration may have some spec ambiguity, need to read details.
… no marketing, no testing, no TD, architecture

Profile

Lagally: Good progress on Profile, we approved 6 MRs, 5-6 others are available and changes are requested. Hope to resolve in call next week.

Lagally: will provide a MR with the reduced scope for Profile 1.0

McCool: we will need to decide on next steps during the profile session on TPAC

Zoom calls for Pre and Post TPAC meetings

McCool: Kaz will allocate Zoom calls and I'll send out calendar invites. Please let me know if your TF have TF calls during the Pre-TPAC, TPAC and post-TPAC meeting weeks, since I can't un-cancel the cancellation of the TF calls.

McCool: let's close this call.
… Will open testing call in 10 mins

<kaz> [adjourned]

Summary of resolutions

  1. use Zoom for all pre-TPAC, TPAC, and post-the TPAC WoT meetings mentioned here: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2022
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 192 (Tue Jun 28 16:55:30 2022 UTC).