Meeting minutes
Scribe, rssagent, agenda check -- any additions? (Please put present+ in IRC)
<brentb> joining zoom in a moment
Judy: Reviews timing of these calls; is it still the best scheduling?
Updates: publication plans, announcements https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts
janina: asks about finding old drafts
shawn: Yes, link in guidance; format may have changed
shawn: Could be confusing that existing note go back to fpwd
Judy: Notes APA hoping to go W3C Statement on this CAPTCHA update
janina_: Sure hope so!
brentb: Needed more clarity for what EO would look at?
brentb: Do we need an intro page on the WAI site for the next note? CAPTCHA?
shawn: Notes EO overview pages
https://
<shawn> examples: https://
Judy: Asks Janina to follow up on existing landing pages and discuss with Shawn on how to update
shawn: Suggests doing so before the messaging idealy
MichaelC: Notes WCAG3 heartbeat plus Explainer due for publication shortly
MichaelC: Notes Explainer not yet approved for publication
MichaelC: Would like to publish Tuesday 7 December
<Zakim> Judy, you wanted to clarify why I'm in copy on the transition request
[discussion whether Explainer should really be TR]
Judy: Notes PLH typically cc's on high profile publications
Judy: We do need many people, more than active in Silver, following WCAG3 development and seeing progress
Judy: Encourages meaningful messaging with each draft, even if light messaging
MichaelC: Believe Jeanne's messaging accomplishes that; and is also in SOTD
MichaelC: Also ARIA 1.2 2nd CR coming; doesn't need messaging particularly
International Day of Persons with Disabilities: reaching out around WAI work
<shawn> https://
new work fyi's
MichaelC: Suggests discussing Maturity Model; compliments Conformance in AGWG for WCAG 3 -- Early proposal
MichaelC: AGWG doesn't have time; Suggestion to move to APA; Or maybe a Community Group?
MichaelC: Suggestion is that it's new work
shawn: Unsure of how Maturity Model fits where
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to be a wet blanket
Michael: Believe it's a priority for some people; but not others
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say where
shawn: Concerned that it not be in too small a group; and be careful about expectations
janina_: I'm enticed by the process over time aspect of MM
Michael: Better to foster the people with the passion to work on their deliverable
+1 to that
Michael: Also COGA Mental Health work
Judy: Suggest to put that on our agenda 15 December
<Judy> NEXT MEETING AGENDA ITEM: Coga's upcoming MH work
International Day of Persons with Disabilities: reaching out around WAI work
<shawn> https://
shawn: Has a blog post to get out asap; feedback welcome; can make tweaks after posting
shawn: Aside: Note the ?AUR poem!
shawn: Hoping people will see it today/tomorrow
And an FYI around terminology
<tzviya> https://
shawn: Sent msg to waicc list
janina_: Saw that post, am OK with what it has
janina_: Note that Conformance Options is playing with additional definitions here:
https://
shawn: Notes additional discussion in EO
<Judy> [JB: BE SURE TO BRING BACK QU ABOUT MEETING TIME, FORMAT, AGENDA SCOPE]
LVTF update
shawn: Have respected low vision researcher who co-authored a paper on simulations
shawn: Useful for contrast in icons
shawn: Opening discussion in WCAG3 algos for contrast
shawn: In LVTF on 16th
shawn: Open invitation
shawn: will invite all groups
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to IP still a speparate issue. LVTF still has isues
[discussion on how to build the LVTF]
<shawn> Shawn IP issue still needs followup from W3C
<shawn> Shawn: IP issue still needs followup from W3C
<Judy> JB confirms that this is actively on my plate, but also may need more info from MC or SLH, will let you know if so.
brentb: Have been working on pwd user stories again
FYI about an EOWG Survey to review user stories of How PWD Use the Web
<Judy> azakim, close LVTF update
brentb: Will have a survey open through 14 December
<shawn> paper https://
shawn: Would appreciate input on how to position these
shawn: It could take forever far too easily
janina: Notes it COGA forever to finish Content Usable; but it's a useful doc
Kim_patch: Concerned that issues I've raised have not been substantively addressed; How to help better?
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to reply
shawn: Notes this was discussed this morning specifically; we are considering though we've been slow
Judy: Want to understand this better
Judy: Is there an opportunity for direct interaction in order to clarify?
brentb: Suggests we circle back with Kevin and editing team
brentb: I can followup