W3C

WoT-IG/WG

22 September 2021

Attendees

Present
Daniel_Peintner, David_Ezell, Ege_Korkan, Jan_Romann, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
-
Chair
McCool
Scribe
kaz, mlagally

Meeting minutes

Preliminary

<McCool> open day doodle https://doodle.com/poll/ms6ywyka5zpbhib7

McCool: next week we will clean up the agenda a bit

Guests, New Members, IEs

McCool: no guests today, 2 new invited experts
… general policy: only accept people who have been participating in a few meetings as invited guests

Minutes

<kaz> Sep-15

McCool: any comments or objections for publishing the notes?
… (none)

Quick updates

DIoT Workshop, Camera ready papers due Oct 18th

Mizushima: Japanese CG: announcement to CG members about TF will be sent later this week

Ege: Netzo is a startup by a former student of mine - product demo could be part of the F2F / OpenDay

Sebastian: I'm in contact with them on the OpenDay, his name is Arturo

Kaz: Takenaka company has a WoT based platform for building management which includes AI services, they use TD and DTDL

McCool: They have a scripting implementation

Koster: very interested

McCool: if everyone today completes the doodle today we can select a da

McCool: would like to hand over the organisation of testing after the upcoming round

TPAC

McCool: updated the wiki

TPAC vF2F wiki

McCool: we'll have the Plugfest next week
… so cancelling calls except the main call
… Open Day meetings and breakouts are tbd
… vF2f on 5, 7, 26, 27 and 28 of Oct
… note one hour shorter on 26th
… due to T2TRG meeting

Kaz: and the last slot on 28th overlapped with MEIG

McCool: ok
… fixing
… also need group meeting calendar to be updated
… topics are listed but not scheduled yet

proposed topics

McCool: (adds TF topics)

main call wiki

WoT main wiki

Daniel: btw, have a question about overlapped content between the main wiki and the main call wiki

Daniel: this is a bit confusing

McCool: let's clean up during the next main call
… let's allocate time slots on the agenda
… sk, do you want to discuss OPC-UA?

Sebastian: yes, as discussed during the use case call yesterday

McCool: Lagally, what about architecture, etc.?

Lagally: architcture 30m, profiles 45m, use cases 45m

Sebastian: TD 2.5h

McCool: regarding security, signature 20m, DID 20m
… what about scripting?

Daniel: get back to you shortly

McCool: for TPAC I like to identify a day for the open day
… (checks the doodle)
… conflicts are at certain times, e.g. AC meetings, we also want to avoid Fridays, they are bad for Japan

Ege: I don't have a serious conflict
… any problems with Monday 11th and Thursday 14th

<McCool> proposal: open day for Oct 11 (Monday) and Oct 14 (Thursday)

Kaz: should have a dedicated discussion on smart cities as discussed on chair's reflector

McCool: this could be a breakout

Kaz: breakouts are limited to 1 hour

McCool: we have options of smart cities on Thursday on OpenDay or a separate session

Kaz: what about OGC?

McCool: Let's coordinate, put it into the calendar and check for conflicts. Could have a 3 hour session on Monday or Thursday

Kaz: I will check with all presenters of SmartCities workshop, including OGC rep

McCool: Registration is open now, please register.
… you have to be a member, i.e. have an account.

McCool: I have an agenda for the joint call with SDW
… also for DID, will add them the agenda

Kaz: we have a response from MiniApp, they have a CG and WG. CG side is interested in a joint meeting.

Lagally: no response from automotive group yet

McCool: we may still be able to get a joint session in, but we are behind the deadline already

OpenDay

McCool: I have allocated 6 hours
… when you have confirmation for a presentation, please add it to the Wiki
… ITU-T - We plan for a Dec 13th joint call.

McCool: OGC and IEEE P2874 - I'll contact them
… Echonet - any updates?

Matsuda: we are considering participating in the OpenDay

Kaz: will remind ISO

McCool: OPC UA, since the current contact is a Siemens member he could be attending the OpenDay or a WG call

Lagally: let's add it to the use case call?

McCool: discussing liaisons during OpenDay is not appropriate, we can invite them to that anyway
… liaison discussion should be happening during TPAC

McCool: Need to discuss where a description of liaisons goes, use cases, somewhere else?

Kaz: I thought Jeff also suggested we have liaison discussion on WoT deployment with all the related SDOs during Open Day, and I thought that would make sense. So it seems a bit odd to me to have some of them during the OpenDay and others during the vF2F. Of course that would be fine if there is any concrete preference or rationale, though.

McCool: At OpenDay other groups are attending, Liaison needs to be discussed

(... reorganising the agenda ...)

Charter

McCool: update to new template happened, we should get a renewal, i.e. a request for a new charter before we ask for an extension
… This depends on the deliverables
… asking for input for the new charter, Michael provided some input

Lagally: which features are in TD 2.0, need to be more explicit
… profiles should not be distiguished by use cases, rather protocols
… we could also consider "industrial" as a name

Cancellations

McCool: Plugfest week: Use Cases, Scripting and Architecture not cancelled, architecture is 1 hour only, all other calls except main call are cancelled

Daniel: Will check on scripting

MiniApps joint discussion (revisited)

Kaz: found their final response on the team-wot thread

Kaz: let's follow up by email on the thread

AOB?

none

<kaz> [adjourned]

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 136 (Thu May 27 13:50:24 2021 UTC).