Meeting minutes
Agenda Review & Announcements
Becky: Happy new year, all. Welcome to our new member Emanuela.
APA Rechartering -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
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Becky: Looking for comments soon (need to have a final draft this month). Particularly the Scope and Out of scope sections.
JF: Concerned about the out-of-scope "technologies that do not interact with web content"—is XR web content?
Léonie: WebXR is web content.
Janina: Could say that when a UA is involved it's considered web content (or the port on which it's transmitted).
JF: Should we state that our remit doesn't extend to hardware or applications?
Léonie: for the XR aspect, should we scope it explicitly to WebXR?
Janina: RQTF sometimes explores areas a bit more widely than strictly web-only (recent example: media synchronization, captions).
Janina: (this sometimes helps feed back in to the web work)
Paul: XR/AR could be used in games, that may be on console (not web) or the web. Why would some of these experiences be considered, but not others?
Neil: Does this depend on APIs being used?
Becky: Should we scope it to W3C/web specifcations, as Léonie mentioned? Does anyone want to have a go at a revised description (offline)? Is it sufficient as-is?
Janina/Becky: let's develop any counterproposals on-list/GitHub.
Becky: if you have suggestions, please send to the list for discussion next time.
Becky: Are the bullets in those sections OK? (For big issues, we can discuss here; for editorial, we can use the list)
Task Force Updates
Paul: Pronunciation: we're focusing on chartering currently too. We are also creating approachable demos/artefacts to explain what we're working on to the general public.
Becky: Personalization: Also working on the charter; action items so that we can go to CR with our first module, on content.
Becky: Working on implementors and getting prepared to ask WHATWG for a prefix.
Janina: RQTF: Continuing to work through WebRTC Accessibility User Requirements document—some new use cases have come to light and we are having fruitful discussion. Working on a Working Draft before trying to finalize it.
Janina: also considering what RQTF would like to add to the APA charter.
Becky: APA met with Web of Things at TPAC and we're both keen to meet. This will likely be of most interest to RQTF. There will be a meeting in the RQTF slot on the 27th of January. Check for list traffic.
FAST Progress Josh
Michael: Work will be resuming shortly. The main document of user needs and the checklist are the current focuses, as well as integration with Silver.
New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22
new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
<MichaelC> CSS Backgrounds and Borders Module Level 3
Michael: this is a CR snapshot.
Janina: there may be need for cross-reference with Silver with respect to color contrast beyond text.
Michael: We asked for something like this in the Color module.
Janina: heads up that the spec will have mathematical formulae in it that will enable a tool to help check for more contrast issues.
Michael: will defer this for now until we have the extra info.
<MichaelC> CSS Box Model Module Level 3
Michael: this is a CR snapshot too.
Amy: *to review*
<MichaelC> CSS Snapshot 2020
Michael: this is a Working Group note. Do we want to review it?
Michael: *suggests probably not*
Becky/Janina/Amy: no need to review
<MichaelC> Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3
Michael: This is FPWD.
Michael/Becky: Don't need to review (low-level)?
Paul: If this is about metadata, we would need to ensure that e.g. alt text is transmitted with metadata for an image.
Paul: *will review*
Action: Paul to review Editing Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3
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Action: grenier to review Editing Data Catalog Vocabulary (DCAT) - Version 3
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2277 - Review editing data catalog vocabulary (dcat) - version 3 [on Paul Grenier - due 2021-01-13].
<MichaelC> The Screen Fold API
Michael: This is FPWD too.
Becky/Janina: is there anything about what to _do_ with the info?
Paul: there was a sentance in parens about locking (though this relates to the screen orientation API)
Michael: Perhaps changing the SHOULD there (in Posture values table) to something else. (First glance only.)
Paul: Can't allow one posture to be locked in.
Action: grenier to review The Screen Fold API
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2278 - Review the screen fold api [on Paul Grenier - due 2021-01-13].
Janina: *suggests posting to the list so we can make a WG comment*
<MichaelC> Web Authentication: An API for accessing Public Key Credentials Level 2
Michael: This was re-published as CR snapshot.
Janina: John Rockford [sp?] offered help with what's changed *will follow up*
CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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Amy: This is fine. A lot of mention is made of the fact that good contrast is not necessarily guaranteed and that it's important.
<MichaelC> action-2277: https://
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2277 Review editing data catalog vocabulary (dcat) - version 3.
<MichaelC> action-2277: https://
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2277 Review editing data catalog vocabulary (dcat) - version 3.
<MichaelC> action-2278: https://
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2278 Review the screen fold api.
<MichaelC> action-2278: https://
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2278 Review the screen fold api.
Amy: (could potentially include an accessibility section in future)
Janina: may be worth adding a note about upcoming tools to help people find/address contrast issues.
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Amy: This issue is from 2018; looking for help tracking the conversation at the time.
Amy: alt was added and then apparently deprecated as a property (though implemented in Safari)
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Amy: this issue is related to the preivous one.
Amy: Do we need to keep these, or are they being discussed, or dropped?
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Janina: ARIA has come up in a few issues across TFs today; shall we collect our thoughts and submit them for consideration for ARIA 1.3? Joint meeting?
<amy_c> blog from Bruce Lawson I mentioned https://
Michael: (Likely ARIA 1.4.) Some of this perhaps fits the Accessibility Object Model and may help prgoress things there.
Janina: seems we have an interesting set of use cases (e.g. from WebRTC).
Janina/Becky/Michael: we should start a [wiki?] page to collect the info; contact ARIA.
Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
Michael: https://
Other Business
Becky: May need another community groups review at some point soon.