New Member Jason Grieves, Microsoft Low Vision Coordinator

<shawn> scribe:laura

<scribe> Scribe: Laura

Shawn: Staff at W3c 15 years. Based in Madison WI.

<shawn> [Introductions]

AC: Works as Nomensa. Co-Chair of AG.

JS: Co-Faciltatior of Silver. Works at TPG.

<shawn> LC: Univ Minn Duluth. On AG WG & LVTF.

Jim: Low Vision TF Chair,

Jason: Low Vision. Albinism. Works at Microsoft..

Laura: Works at University if Minnesota. Duluth.

Jason: Excited about making text bigger.
... alot around color.
... peers work on narrator..

shawn: finished 2.1. Taking a breather.
... working on support material. Techniques and Understanding docs.
... in a transition period.
... ready for fresh voices.

<Zakim> alastairc, you wanted to suggest creating a technique as a practical method!

AC: process in writing techniques.
... practical first step.
... will forward more information on how.

<alastairc> It's mostly here: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-techniques#List_of_Techniques

<alastairc> Which is a big list, with step-by-step at the bottom.

jim: Glad Jason is here.

Silver request - proposal testing with LV SC that did not make 2.1 (we need to pick)

JS: Been working on Silver for past 18 months.
... successor to WCAG
... need examples of things that LVTF couldn’t get into 2.1 to inform Silver.
... looking at new ways of measuring.

<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to ask about browsers / ATAG

JS: may have 2 categories: measurement and user agent

<shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#Success_Criteria -- includes "Proposed Success Criteria - Silver"

Jim: we have a wiki page.

Issues to be addressed in Silver: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Issues_to_be_addressed_in_Silver

<shawn> browsers one is printing.

<shawn> focus indicator visbility

shawn: focus ring didn’t get in.

<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say UA out clause

shawn: another one with user agent escape clause.

<shawn> text customization has UA out clause

AC: focus ring may be a good UA example.

Jim: +1

Shawn that one would be a good one.

jim: video controls would be another UA one that we should add to the Wiki page.
... abilty to to change styles

LC: or bring back user styles.

JS: can thrash it around on the list.

<shawn> SLH: font. printing.

<alastairc> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Text_Style - changing fonts

JS: see if you can figure out how it could be tested.

<shawn> LC: e-mail on it somewhere...

JS: at different ways of measuring things.

AC: focus ring would be good.
... useful to have a list for 2.2

<shawn> [ /me points Jeanne to https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Printing_Customized_Text]

js: if something is written up we could move it into a prototype.

shawn: need a good updated list.

js: interested in testability one now.

Reflow technique - Text spacing override https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/tech-spacing-override/techniques/css/spacing-override.html

<alastairc> https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/tech-spacing-override-ac/techniques/css/spacing-override-small.html

AC: did some examples

<shawn> LC: Think Andrew said on call, wanted one technique. I went through survey and updated the original technique. Would that work?

<shawn> AC: ... test procedure is the same... one is height and one is width...

<shawn> [ Alastair & Laura discuss ...]

Reflow technique - Long URLs https://rawgit.com/allanj-uaag/wcag21/tech-reflow/tech-reflow-url.html

<shawn> Jim: Please review

jim: please review.
... comment on the list. Need 5 +1’s for survey.

shawn: anything else?

<alastairc> Jim - if you're in IRC, here's the URL for Jake's example page: https://github.com/w3c/wcag/blob/example-css-grid/working-examples/css-grid/index.html

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