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20 March 2018

Meeting Minutes

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proposed: approve minutes of last meeting https://‌www.w3.org/‌2018/‌03/‌13-dxwg-minutes

<annette_g> I'm missing from regrets

+1

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

<LarsG> +1

<PWinstanley> +1

<annette_g> other than that, +1

<annette_g> not supre important

<Zakim> LarsG, you wanted to ask about good standing

recording regrets helps retain good standing under W3C process

to remain in good standing need to attend or send regrets

<LarsG> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2014/‌Process-20140801/#good-standing

Action: on DSR to add annette_g to March 13 regrets

<trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌users>.

Action: DSR to add annette_g to March 13 regrets

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planning for f2f 3

PWinstanley: creative idea to avoid US/Europe venue, suggests possibly meeting in E Asia - KL, Singapore, HK
… some unis have outposts e.g. Heriot Watt, MIT have campuses near KL
… do any other WG members have affiliations which could provide a venue in or near KL?

annette_g: foreign travel is a -ve no matter how far, also others

<PWinstanley> https://‌www.skyscanner.net/ is a good tool to check options

<kcoyle> kcoyle: thinking about f2f is to dig into the condept of profiles and decide what we mean by guidance

SimonCOx: says AUssies are used to being inconvenienced

<PWinstanley> annette_g: the major routes and places that we've had f2f suggests Australia as a logical option

kcoyle: goal of f2f is to make progress on profiles

<kcoyle> SimonCox_: Rob is working on this

I've created some stub Wiki pages where I hope some better profile material can be created https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌wiki/‌DCAT-Profiles-Topics

Action: kcoyle to make proposal about f2f

<trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - Make proposal about f2f [on Karen Coyle - due 2018-03-27].

kcoyle: an alternative to f2f is to have 3 days of 4 hour telecons (for example)

open action items

https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌open

plenary schedule

https://‌doodle.com/‌poll/‌duqqsivqc66wmmb7

<annette_g> I can do 7:00 am

https://‌www.timeanddate.com/‌worldclock/‌meetingtime.html?iso=20180402&p1=152&p2=224&p3=43&p4=304&p5=215

<kcoyle> proposal: keep same UTC time 21:00 and same day (Tuesday)

<kcoyle> PROPOSED: Time 20:00 UTC and on Tuesdays

<PWinstanley> +1

<annette_g> +1

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

+0.5

<LarsG> +1 (0.75)

<RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Resolved: Time 20:00 UTC and on Tuesdays

... and every second week

use cases

jaroslav has offered two new UCs

<kcoyle> https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌jaro_relax_property_domain_range_usecase/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID51

<kcoyle> https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌jaro_real_world_context/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID52

Simon's alternative version of #51

https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌simon-jaro_relax_property_domain_range_usecase/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID51

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌simon-jaro_relax_property_domain_range_usecase/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID51

<kcoyle> SimonCox_: was responding to issues of backward compatibility; make only necessary changes

proposed: add UC #ID51 using Simon's wording

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

+1

<RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

<annette_g> +1

<LarsG> +1

<PWinstanley> +1

Resolved: add UC #ID51 using https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌simon-jaro_relax_property_domain_range_usecase/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID51

This is also relevant https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌sdw-bp/#spatial-things-features-and-geometry

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> we are talking about this UC: https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌jaro_real_world_context/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID52

PWinstanley: many real-world-things have limited lifetime
… why treat specially?

Jaroslav_Pullmann: important rwt are sources for data

PWinstanley: worried about which rwt can be reliably and persistently identified

Jaroslav_Pullmann: often it is the type that needs to be identified, not jsut the instance

annette_g: what is special for DCAT here?

kcoyle: this is not original, of course there will be rwt involved
… rwt is too broad to be useful

Jaroslav_Pullmann: 'real world entity' is not important terminology

SimonCox_: what DCAT predicate is used to link a Dataset to a rwe?

SimonCox_: need to improve documentation in DCAT about how to link to rwe

<PWinstanley> doesn't BFO have material and immaterial entities?

<kcoyle> straw poll: ID 52

<RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Jaroslav_Pullmann: possibly dct:subject and dcat:theme are too generic

+1

<annette_g> -1 not convinced this is useful

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

<PWinstanley> 0

<LarsG> 0

<annette_g> It would help me to see an actual use case spelled out.

Action: Jaroslav_Pullmann and DCAT team to clarify UC

<trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - And dcat team to clarify uc [on Jaroslav Pullmann - due 2018-03-27].

<RiccardoAlbertoni> bye thanks!

RRSAgent: generate minutes

<LarsG> Bye

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> bye!

Summary of Action Items

  1. on DSR to add annette_g to March 13 regrets
  2. DSR to add annette_g to March 13 regrets
  3. kcoyle to make proposal about f2f
  4. Jaroslav_Pullmann and DCAT team to clarify UC

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Time 20:00 UTC and on Tuesdays
  2. add UC #ID51 using https://‌rawgit.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌simon-jaro_relax_property_domain_range_usecase/‌ucr/‌index.html#ID51
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