<scribe> scribe: gottfried
<janina> .
John: Conversation with Sam Goto,
engineer at Google.
... Making forms better by attaching metadata to form
inputs.
... Merging forms together by responding to voice input.
... Strong metadata for form inputs. WCAG criterion and
personalization.
... Microdata is brittle and breaks at scale. Google does not
look at it strongly.
... Can Sam join our group?
... He is interested, and he is paid by Google. Will benefit
our work.
... Where should we ask him to join? APA, AG?
Michael: Personalization is in ARIA.
Janina: Coga is joint APA &
AG
... but not specifically about metadata, but including.
John: Coga work seems fitting to the metadata topic.
Ted: Why is personalization in ARIA?
Janina: Historical reasons. Not clear if personalization will become an ARIA module.
Michael: Issue is being sorted out in the personalization tf.
John: Preference for ARIA?
Janina: Yes, for historical reasons.
John: At some point, it might be
good to have a discussion on the larger topic of addressing the
needs of persons with cognitive.
... We have two task forces that seem to have overlap.
Janina: There are different people.
<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/54
Janina: We will do it.
... You want him to talk to Michael.
Michael: TV Raman can nominate him, and then i need to add him to the tf.
Janina: Charles is the facilitator
<JF> +1 to no meeting next week
Michael: Janina suggests that we not meet next week due to cSUN.
<janina> Dailing back ...
(no objection)
No meeting next week. N
Next meeting on March 28.
<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2018Mar/0000.html
Janina: Proposed response from
TTML.
... Is the specific response adequate?
... Does it cover all?
... Especially request to Gottfried.
... Is the title okay?
Gottfried: Will respond by email today.
John: The concern about scaling was understood. TTML now points to MAUR. That's a big win.
Janina: Would be nice to sound more positive, i.e. "supports ...".
John: That's editorial nature.
Janina: Please send comments to me this week.
Michael: They are doing another
redesign of the TRs.
... There were some a11y problems in CSS in the last rounds
that we did not catch. Hopefully they will be addressed
now.
<janina> Fantasie email about this at:
<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2018Feb/0064.html
Michael: Also redesign on other
aspects, e.g. masthead. Could potentially introduce new a11y
problems.
... Basic instructions for participating are in the
message.
... To what level should we be involved?
... If we fail to provide feedback in their timeline, we won't
have a chance later.
<Zakim> JF, you wanted to note we must ensure a horizontal review before launch
John: W3C process has horizontal reviews. It cannot launch until this has happened.
Michael: They need to solicit for
horizontal review, not to obtain.
... They may only give a few weeks. We have the obligation to
provide early review.
... Don't think there will be an explicit horizontal
review.
John: Who is them?
Michael: Project led by W3C staff. Other contributing, and students.
John: I am concerned about that
they are not mandated to receive horizontal review.
... How can we do this?
Janina: That's an AC question.
Michael: They will solicit review, and as long as their timeline is reasonable, it is on us to deliver.
Janina: We all agree on this. Need to look at the issues.
Ian is not present.
action-2123?
<trackbot> action-2123 -- Ted Drake to Triage changelog of dom 4.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 - note stuff on mutation -- due 2018-01-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2123
Ted: Haven't been able to work on it.
Michael: They could go to CR at
any time.
... Would be good to put notes on the action page.
Janina: Link this from Shadow DOM?
<MichaelC> action-2052: also note review of DOM 4.1 action-2123
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2052 Review https://www.w3.org/tr/shadow-dom/ shadow dom.
Janina: We are planning to have Charles talk to us about Shadow DOM after CSUN
<MichaelC> action-2123: Ted to put notes in wiki and close action
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2123 Triage changelog of dom 4.1 https://www.w3.org/tr/dom41/#historical-changes-fpwd-dom4 - note stuff on mutation.
<MichaelC> CSS Text Decoration Module Level 4
First public wd
Michael: You could probably do
bad things to accessibility, but it is not inherent to the
spec.
... Like thick strike-through.
Janina: I don't want to go
without having Ian present.
... No need to review.
... We have enough serious stuff.
<MichaelC> Custom Elements
Michael: We were concerned about this - know we don't know how it will proceed.
Janina: That's part of our conversation with Charles. Shadow DOM and Customs.
<MichaelC> HTML Accessibility API Mappings 1.0
Michael: ARIA wg will review
this.
... Don't know if they are also reviewing HTML API
mappings.
Joanmarie: We will include
HTML.
... Most people in ARIA wg don't have the knowledge to review
the mappings.
... But i am going to review.
... And there are other people that can do this.
Janina: Can APA ask them
officially?
... Then it bounces back here
<MichaelC> Text Layout Requirements for the Arabic Script
John: Shadi?
Michael: I don't think we need to
do a formal review
... No need to review for APA
<MichaelC> WebAssembly Core Specification
Michael: I think i should have set that as assigned.
Janina: We wanted to reduce the roaster to have one name per vertical.
Michael: (going through the
list)
... Mixed reality has no name.
Janina: Ask RQTF?
Ted: I am looking at a change in my work. Might have more availabilities.
<MichaelC> iJanina: We wanted to reduce the roaster to have one name per vertical.|https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Verticals_to_Track|
Michael: Lead for e-learning?
John: Pearson Publishing involved?
Michael: Our main contact left
Pearson.
... Shadi has been doing work in Web of Things.
... We should ask him to lead Web of Things.
... Graphics tf not active anymore.
... Next step will be to assign tasks to each person leading a
vertical.
... Like writing a plan, who do we want to recruit, and
how?
No other things
Janina: We are done.
We will meet two weeks from today.
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