– DRAFT –
DXWG DCAT Team
07 March 2018
<SimonCox> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2018.03.07
<SimonCox> scribenick DaveBrowning
<AndreaPerego> +1
<SimonCox> +1
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
<alejandra> +1
+1
Resolved: minutes approved
<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1
<SimonCox> https://doodle.com/poll/cvuzxnqan8s8utbc
SimonCox: doodle poll published. Majority looks to be for the same UTC time.
… Most regulars have already replied.
… poll will close in the next few hours
… WebEx booking is following US time - getting it changed is being followed up with DaveR
Progress around linking document to github issues. Others encouraged to take action
<alejandra> to add to the agenda: to look at the actions we created last time (I created them manually in the Action tracker)
SimonCox: placeholder for DCAT Profile and negotiation in place, but not clear if the relevent subgroups will add to that or publish separately
… but marking it in the FPWD is good either way
… chairs have been asked - what the process is
alejandra: do we vote in this group first or just in plenary?
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions
SimonCox: vote here that we’re happy to take something to the plenary
SimonCox: Digression to current actions -
… Discussion with Rob on what the next steps are, including following through with DaveR, but most of these need profiles subgroup actions
Jaroslav_Pullmann: will follow through on his use case (is a github issue)
<SimonCox> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/tree/gh-pages/dcat/rdf
<AndreaPerego> About my actions, I have yet to start working on them.
SimonCox: couple of DCAT modules in repository at above link
… main DCAT one including a couple of changes. Two other modules - one includes prov-o and DCAT, onecovering schema.org, using schemaincludes etc
<SimonCox> AndreaPerego: look at https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/146
<SimonCox> re https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Main_Page#Mappings_to.2Ffrom_DCAT_.28and_DCAT_application_profiles.29
<AndreaPerego> Thanks, SimonCox. In case we would like to complement this with the corresponding SPARQL queries, we can start from: https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/CITnet/stash/projects/ODCKAN/repos/dcat-ap-to-schema.org/browse/sparql
SimonCox: above link has links relevent to DCAT, these were copied into the modules, Andrea asked to look at these
<SimonCox> DCAT 1.0 profile https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/blob/simon-dcat-v1.0-profile/dcat/rdf/dcat10.ttl
SimonCox: this file follows through on suggestions that a backward compatible profile should be provided
… this file imports anything we delete in the new version of DCAT
… as an experiment
<Zakim> alejandra, you wanted to comment on the mapping
<AndreaPerego> Thanks, alejandra. I'll do.
<SimonCox> Andrea to look at https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/146
alejandra: pull req 146 would benefit from Andrea opinion
<SimonCox> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/146/files/f378ad358c84ed4cccda8855baa7eef41531a9bd
Action: AndreaPerego to look at https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/146
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AndreaPerego: if we intend to complement the links - there is some work on sparql available too
… question - are we including a change log?
SimonCox: yes - we’ll add at the bottom of the doc
Action: AndreaPerego to add changelog section in DCAT+ draft
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<alejandra> I can add the actions to the tracker
roba: apologies - joined after the start. Profile group don’t intend to add to the DCAT standard
Action: created: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/92
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SimonCox: we’ll cover that shortly
<SimonCox> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/114
SimonCox: much conversation on the github issue, but not all participants are in this meeting.
NicholasCar: initial suggestion started a discussion on which type was more appropriate, but the suggestion is now to use the dort
S/dort/ODRL/
...approach since it is more general
... but augmented by clear discussion or rationale in specification
<alejandra> a contact to the ODRL group is pending (see action https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/84)
... not quite ready to make a decision - needs more discussion, though not quite nailed yet. Needs specific proposal
<SimonCox> q/
RobA: does the decision to adopt ODRL imply we adopt other ODRL approaches.
NicholasCar: likely to be the case - will make that clear in the proposal
RobA: suggest that if we adopt a vocab in one place then we should check whether it is useful on other issues
SimonCox: ODRL is pretty narrow in its scope, but in general this might be a good approach
AndreaPerego: ODRL has value if not using a standard licence, and perhaps we should encourage use of the standard ones
NicholasCar: will cover this in proposal to make it clear when it’s appropriate to use the simpler approach via dc:rights and standard licences
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/ucr/
Jaroslav_Pullmann: similar example in uc25
… for the metadata of the catalog itself may have restrictions
NicholasCar: does it sound like our approach would apply there too?
Jaroslav_Pullmann: Most likely. These have different communities participating
… is there any ontologies on expressing licence info in a standard way?
AndreaPerego: re licence for metadata. When this has been discussed it had a different angle, to my mind
Jaroslav_Pullmann: there are examples of companies providing high quality metadata and wanting to protect it in some way.
<Zakim> alejandra, you wanted to mention CC work
Jaroslav_Pullmann: so want to make sure that the proposal is written to apply in that case
<alejandra> https://creativecommons.org/ns
<AndreaPerego> There's also ODRS which might be worth looking at: http://schema.theodi.org/odrs/
alejandra: re vocab for licences - examples in Creative Commons
<AndreaPerego> Jaroslav_Pullmann, I think ODRL is more flexible for this purpose.
NicholasCar: Im actually doing this now.... should have something comparatively shortly for the top few licences
<alejandra> +1 I look forward to seeing that NicholasCar
<roba> ok - link to strawe man is here: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/tree/roba-profile/dcat/rdf
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> thanks for your references Alejandra, Andrea & Nick
SimonCox: re: profiles aspects in DCAT
<SimonCox> andrea to send links re SPARQL profiles to roba
<AndreaPerego> https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/CITnet/stash/projects/ODCKAN/repos/dcat-ap-to-schema.org/browse/sparql
<roba> preferably by committing change to examples :-)
<AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye!
<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> thanks all
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> thanks all, bye!
<alejandra> thanks, and bye!
<SimonCox> rrsagent generate minutes
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No scribenick or scribe found. Guessed: davebrowning