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Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference

16 October 2017

Meeting Minutes

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<Caroline_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌10/‌09-dxwg-minutes

kcoyle: missing action item - to propose some wording .. possible types for versioning.

<kcoyle> https://‌lists.w3.org/‌Archives/‌Public/‌public-dxwg-wg/‌2017Oct/‌0018.html\

<kcoyle> https://‌lists.w3.org/‌Archives/‌Public/‌public-dxwg-wg/‌2017Oct/‌0018.html

<kcoyle> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌pull/‌35

<kcoyle> That's the link to Peter's suggested changes

roba: questions state of UCR accept change to line 21, not reflecting discussion in the minutes.

Caroline: proposes to accept minutes and revisit this issue of recorded agreement later

<annette_g> +1

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

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<alejandra> +1

<AndreaPerego> +1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<Caroline_> +0 (absent)

Resolved: minutes approved https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌10/‌16-dxwg-minutes.html

<Caroline_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌wiki/‌F2f2

Caroline_: please indicate if attending

<Caroline_> https://‌beta.doodle.com/‌poll/‌675y9xb5f4ci455x

Caroline_: 12 votes for Tuesday starting at 8pm UTC

Action: Caroline_ to contact Lars via email to see if can do an hour later at 9pm UTC

<trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Contact lars via email to see if can do an hour later at 9pm utc [on Caroline Burle - due 2017-10-23].

alejandra: availability recorded is for after daylight time changes

1am: -)\

<Caroline_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌open

Caroline_: meeting times to change immediately however

kcoyle: problem with tracker - closed actions reopened - support unable to resolve
… need to manually re-close

Caroline_: can perform closing

Jaroslav_Pullmann: open action is look at prov and void vocabularies

alejandra: open action is #44

<Caroline_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌open

<AndreaPerego> --> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌44

kcoyle: Ixchel reports all requirements into spreadsheet - should be complete

<Caroline_> roba: I will take a look at it now that it is completed

Action: roba to look at providing draft naming of groups for rest of requirements

<trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Look at providing draft naming of groups for rest of requirements [on Rob Atkinson - due 2017-10-23].

kcoyle: asks that small group take this offline and bring back a coherent set of version requirements.
… we dont seem to be able to decide on version definition - we need to address this requirement first, and then inform the rest

Jaroslav_Pullmann: should UCR editors do this

kcoyle: editors would be good but do we have a concensus

alejandra: relates to open action and willing to participate - keep on mailing list?

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> We might use a common email subject to drive the discussion (and details) in the group

<Caroline_> roba: we have a recording of a discussion on version

<Caroline_> ... if we need a version definition then we need to jump ahead and start resolving that

<Caroline_> ... it is a question of if do the requirements make sense

<Caroline_> ... the version definition maybe could go to the dcat group

<Caroline_> ... there is a question wheather version is something to negotiate like profiles

Jaroslav_Pullmann: Use Cases is not very clear yet on what versions apply to - need to edit the Use Cases here so they drive the requirements
… speciifically how prescriptive they need to be, e.g. ordering

+1 if any argument need to go back to Use Case drivers

kcoyle: shall we move onto other requirements and come back to versioning

Jaroslav_Pullmann: yes - and keep on discussing in background

<Caroline_> roba: could we go to a triage about different use cases?

roba: Can we look at which remaining requirements are really the same - mechanism to add finer-grained description of various aspects?

<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> I would like to contribute as well to the version sub-group.

<Caroline_> great Stijn_Goedertier_AIV

Caroline_: who to delegate versioin discussion to, and try to get proposal by F2F

Jaroslav_Pullmann: shall I generate graphical analysis of versioning aspects

<PWinstanley_> +1 to Jaroslav's idea

<annette_g> I am willing to help with the version subgroup

<PWinstanley_> I will work on versioning in the group

please record volunteers to work on Versioning..

I can take lead to capture/edit agree outcomes of discussion vi mailing list

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> I'll contribute trying to recap/summarize the discussions in a wiki page, is it ok

Caroline_: PROPOSE: continue discussion on version via mailing list

<annette_g> +1

<kcoyle> +1

+1

<Caroline_> +1

<DaveBrowning> +1

<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

<AndreaPerego> +1

Resolved: continue discussion on version via mailing list

<alejandra> +1

Action: Jaroslav_Pullmann to generate graphical representation of the version definition problem space

<trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Generate graphical representation of the version definition problem space [on Jaroslav Pullmann - due 2017-10-23].

<Caroline_> roba: I can do the first grouping

roba: so far i see two main groups: finer grained semantics and "range" against various dimensions
… please indicate any other key groups people see

<alejandra> thanks and bye!

Caroline_: remids us same time next week.

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> bye!

<Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> thanks all

<AndreaPerego> Bye!

bye

<Caroline_> bye! thank you!

Summary of Action Items

  1. Caroline_ to contact Lars via email to see if can do an hour later at 9pm UTC
  2. roba to look at providing draft naming of groups for rest of requirements
  3. Jaroslav_Pullmann to generate graphical representation of the version definition problem space

Summary of Resolutions

  1. minutes approved https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌10/‌16-dxwg-minutes.html
  2. continue discussion on version via mailing list
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