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14:02:20 <Caroline_> scribenick: roba
14:02:24 <Caroline_> chair: Caroline_
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14:05:28 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/10/09-dxwg-minutes
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14:07:00 <roba> kcoyle: missing action item - to propose some wording .. possible types for versioning.
14:07:02 <AndreaPerego> present+ AndreaPerego
14:07:08 <roba> q+
14:07:18 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:07:27 <DaveBrowning> Present+ DaveBrowning
14:09:02 <kcoyle> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2017Oct/0018.html\
14:09:08 <kcoyle> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2017Oct/0018.html
14:09:15 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:09:33 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:09:36 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:10:52 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:11:29 <annette_g> Q+
14:11:49 <Caroline_> q?
14:11:58 <Caroline_> ack annette_g
14:12:49 <kcoyle> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/35
14:13:07 <kcoyle> That's the link to Peter's suggested changes
14:13:47 <roba> roba: questions state of UCR accept change to line 21, not reflecting discussion in the minutes.
14:15:01 <roba> Caroline: proposes to accept minutes and revisit this issue of recorded agreement later
14:15:23 <annette_g> +1
14:15:27 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
14:15:30 <roba> +0
14:15:30 <alejandra> +1
14:15:35 <AndreaPerego> +1
14:15:39 <DaveBrowning> +1
14:15:40 <Caroline_> +0 (absent)
14:15:42 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:16:23 <roba> RESOLVED: Accepte dminutes
14:16:39 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: minutes approved https://www.w3.org/2017/10/16-dxwg-minutes.html
14:16:39 <roba> s/dminutes/minutes
14:17:10 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/F2f2
14:17:34 <roba> Caroline_: please indicate if attending
14:18:38 <Caroline_> https://beta.doodle.com/poll/675y9xb5f4ci455x
14:19:19 <roba> Caroline_: 12 votes for Tuesday starting at 8pm UTC
14:21:02 <roba> ACTION: Caroline_ to contact Lars via email to see if can do an hour later at 9pm UTC
14:21:05 <alejandra> q+
14:21:10 <Caroline_> ack alejandra
14:21:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Contact lars via email to see if can do an hour later at 9pm utc [on Caroline Burle - due 2017-10-23].
14:23:54 <roba> alejandra: availability recorded is for after daylight time changes
14:24:05 <roba> 1am :-)\
14:24:32 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:24:35 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
14:24:50 <roba> Caroline_: meeting times to change immediately however
14:24:51 <kcoyle> q+
14:24:57 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:25:40 <roba> kcoyle: problem with tracker - closed actions reopened - support unable to resolve
14:26:02 <roba> ... need to manually re-close
14:27:23 <alejandra> q+
14:27:53 <roba> q+
14:28:19 <roba> q-
14:28:29 <Caroline_> ack alejandra
14:28:33 <roba> Caroline_: can perform closing
14:29:15 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:29:25 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:30:24 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: open action is look at prov and void vocabularies
14:30:43 <Caroline_> q?
14:30:53 <roba> alejandra: open action is #44
14:31:09 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
14:31:10 <kcoyle> q+
14:31:15 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:31:29 <AndreaPerego> --> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/44
14:31:53 <roba> kcoyle: Ixchel reports all requirements into spreadsheet - should be complete
14:31:57 <roba> q+
14:32:02 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:32:18 <Caroline_> roba: I will take a look at it now that it is completed
14:33:24 <roba> ACTION: roba to look at providing draft naming of groups for rest of requirements
14:33:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Look at providing draft naming of groups for rest of requirements [on Rob Atkinson - due 2017-10-23].
14:34:08 <roba> kcoyle: asks that small group take this offline and bring back a coherent set of version requirements.
14:34:46 <roba> ...we dont seem to be able to decide on version definition - we need to address this requirement first, and then inform the rest
14:34:51 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:35:10 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:36:14 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: should UCR editors do this
14:36:46 <roba> kcoyle: editors would be good but do we have a concensus
14:36:47 <alejandra> q+
14:37:42 <roba> q+
14:37:42 <Caroline_> ack alejandra
14:38:16 <roba> alejandra: relates to open action and willing to participate - keep on mailing list?
14:38:32 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:38:36 <annette_g> Q+
14:38:44 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> We might use  a common email subject to drive the discussion (and details) in the group
14:39:24 <Caroline_> roba: we have a recording of a discussion on version
14:39:39 <Caroline_> ... if we need a version definition then we need to jump ahead and start resolving that
14:39:40 <annette_g> Q-
14:40:01 <Caroline_> ... it is a question of if do the requirements make sense
14:40:30 <Caroline_> ... the version definition maybe could go to the dcat group
14:40:45 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:40:51 <Caroline_> ... there is a question wheather version is something to negotiate like profiles
14:41:04 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:42:18 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: Use Cases is not very clear yet on what versions apply to - need to edit the Use Cases here so they drive the requirements
14:42:44 <roba> ...speciifically how prescriptive they need to be, e.g. ordering
14:43:00 <kcoyle> q+
14:43:04 <Caroline_> ack kcoyle
14:43:08 <roba> +1 if any argument need to go back to Use Case drivers
14:43:26 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:43:31 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:43:36 <roba> kcoyle: shall we move onto other requirements and come back to versioning
14:43:52 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: yes - and keep on discussing in background
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14:45:35 <Caroline_> ack roba
14:46:44 <Caroline_> roba: could we go to a triage about different use cases?
14:47:41 <roba> roba: Can we look at which remaining requirements are really the same - mechanism to add finer-grained description of various aspects?
14:47:58 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:47:59 <Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> I would like to contribute as well to the version sub-group.
14:48:02 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:48:16 <Caroline_> great Stijn_Goedertier_AIV
14:48:39 <roba> Caroline_: who to delegate versioin discussion to, and try to get proposal by F2F
14:49:24 <roba> Jaroslav_Pullmann: shall I generate graphical analysis of versioning aspects
14:49:41 <PWinstanley_> +1 to Jaroslav's idea
14:49:49 <alejandra> q+
14:49:53 <annette_g> I am willing to help with the version subgroup
14:49:57 <Caroline_> ack alejandra
14:50:06 <PWinstanley_> I will work on versioning in the group
14:50:20 <roba> please record volunteers to work on Versioning..
14:51:13 <roba> I can take lead to capture/edit agree outcomes of discussion vi mailing list
14:51:43 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> I'll contribute trying to recap/summarize the discussions in a wiki page, is it ok
14:51:47 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> q+
14:51:52 <Caroline_> ack Jaroslav_Pullmann
14:52:13 <roba> Caroline_: PROPOSE: continue discussion on version via mailing list
14:52:43 <annette_g> +1
14:52:46 <kcoyle> +1
14:52:47 <roba> +1
14:52:47 <Caroline_> +1
14:52:48 <DaveBrowning> +1
14:52:51 <Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> +1
14:52:53 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
14:52:56 <AndreaPerego> +1
14:53:15 <roba> RESOLVED: continue discussion on version via mailing list
14:53:19 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:53:51 <alejandra> +1
14:54:13 <roba> ACTION: Jaroslav_Pullmann to generate graphical representation of the version definition problem space
14:54:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Generate graphical representation of the version definition problem space [on Jaroslav Pullmann - due 2017-10-23].
14:55:31 <Caroline_> roba: I can do the first grouping
14:56:36 <roba> roba: so far i see two main groups: finer grained semantics and "range" against various dimensions
14:57:00 <roba> ..please indicate any other key groups people see
14:57:06 <Caroline_> q?
14:57:59 <alejandra> thanks and bye!
14:58:06 <roba> Caroline_: remids us same time next week.
14:58:07 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> bye!
14:58:10 <Stijn_Goedertier_AIV> thanks all
14:58:11 <Jaroslav_Pullmann> present-
14:58:16 <AndreaPerego> Bye!
14:58:20 <roba> bye
14:58:20 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:58:27 <Caroline_> bye! thank you!
14:58:34 <AndreaPerego> meeting: Dataset Exchange Working Group Teleconference
14:58:49 <AndreaPerego> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2017.10.16
14:59:09 <AndreaPerego> regrets+ LarsG, Ruben, Ixchel, Antoine, Simon, Thomas, Makx
14:59:11 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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14:59:33 <AndreaPerego> s/RESOLVED: Accepte minutes//
14:59:34 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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