W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

24 Apr 2017

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Kathy, Mary Jo, Moe, Chris, Alistair, Anne, Stein Erik, Shadi
Regrets
Chair
Mary Jo
Scribe
Kathy, shadi

Contents


<Kathy> scribe: Kathy

TPAC 2017 Face-to-face https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/ACT_TPAC2017/results

Mary Jo - questionnaire open until today

... looks like from the results that is highly probably that we will have a meeting

... if anyone has any time that does not work please add to the survey

Test case repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Test_case_repository

Mary Jo - looks like there is a list of repositories

... and some metadata defined

... there is a repository of test cases https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Testing_Resources
... does anyone have any feedback on this

Alistair - Wilco put in a format and you need to run that against test suite

... model is ok

... we are supposed to collect the repositories
... bentoweb does not have a pass / fail so someone will manually need to go through
... AXE model is different
... I think Wilco wanted someone to own this

Shadi - issue is that bentoweb is not participating

... so can we extract what we need

... we will need someone to write a conversion tool

Alistair - I took a look but didn't see where the pass/fail was

Shadi - pretty sure that the data is there, we may need to ask them

... metadata is in XML

<shadi> http://www.bentoweb.org/refs/TCDL2.0.html

<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL

shadi: w3c took a subset of these

<ChrisLoiselle> looks like this may be where it goes into pass fail <locations expectedResult="fail">

<ChrisLoiselle> 8.1.3. Linking Locations and Techniques

shadi: if a tool runs the file, it is expected to produce
... so expectResult is the results - pass, fail, cannotTell and notApplicable

Mary Jo - maybe we can ask them questions

Alistair - we have tried emailing and not sure how to push out note out to people

Kathy - may want to post to the interest group

Shadi - Jon Gunderson may have a test suite and they may have a person to join

Rules repository https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Rules_repository

Mary Jo - proposal for review

Kathy - wouldn't we want the publication to be on the same schedule as WCAG 2.0

Mary Jo - we should sync with the WCAG 2.0 schedule

... it would be good to talk to the chairs of AG to find out schedule

... any other comments?

ACT benchmark https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Benchmark_requirements

<shadi> scribe: shadi

AG: isn't benchmark same as running against test suite?
... coverage and accuracy

MJM: thought it was you run your tools against

https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/ACT_Overview_-_What_is_ACT

AG: different ways to do things
... use Jasmine and Cucumber
... may not be good to write another tool

SAZ: maybe reuse these tools rather than rewrite

AG: don't have access to all tools
... vendors need to carry out the testing themselves

<MoeKraft> I need to drop for a daily scrum call.

SAZ: think idea was to provide a runner

AG: we're not set out to develop software here
... many years of work
... we all do it differently
... best way is to just ask people to use the test suites and send in the results
... optionally, of course

MJM: sounds reasonable

NEXT MEETING: MAY 8th

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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