Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-580?

<trackbot> action-580 -- Richard Ishida to Set up two repos for felix's documents from its for final publication as note -- due 2017-01-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/580

close action-580

<trackbot> Closed action-580.

Info Share

Radar and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

<r12a> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2017JanMar/0012.html

richard: jumped into ttml2, jumped straight into ruby section
... so if you look elsewhere........
... many issues in ruby

<r12a> [[

<r12a> The horizontal review should focus only on the new features

<r12a> introduced in TTML2.

<r12a> Please refer to the section for changes between Timed Text Markup Language (TTML) Version 1 (TTML1) and Version 2 (TTML2).

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-ttml2-20161117/#changes-from-ttml1-vocabulary

<r12a> ]]

addison: please volunteer on the member list for sections as you review them

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Jan/0017.html

CSS WG proposal to ignore line-height: normal when rhythmic sizing is enabled

https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/938

koji: proposal from florian to change line-height:normal
... would lose ability to set line height based on font metrics
... may affect some languages/fonts that have very tall scripts
... proposal is to make line-height:normal to be line-height:1
... there are some scripts that stack vertically or are very tall

(citings of Tibetan, Myanmar, Arabic)

scribe: when set to a number, it depends on font
... normal uses font metrics not the font
... so line to line spacing can be different
... florians proposal is to avoid font metrics based line height because Latin font users have bad experience
... do non-latin script rely more on normal/font metrics than others??

normal is default

lines never overlap as a result, but leading inconsistent

if glyphs too tall, lines overlap, when you use numbers

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richard: trying quickly, Tibetan and Arabic break if line-height:1

mixed script produces better results when it can adjust

richard: there are text examples at following link
... might be useful

<r12a> http://r12a.github.io/scripts/phrases

koji: can prepare response using these samples
... will bring back if not easy to conclude

Github repo activity digest

richard: sent some emails about this
... more I thought that this is useful
... suggesting that we hit www-international issue when an issue is created
... or if we raised on someone's repo and it gets the i18n label
... and winter when they close
... but no information flowing
... that is useful in keeping traffic down
... but also means that they get notifications that they might not care about
... have to subscribe to the issue itself
... also folks reply by email rather than github, creating threading problems
... so propose to send digest saying effectively: here are the new issues, the closed issues, and the ones with traffic
... thinking daily digest
... two or more digest is possible

<scribe> ACTION: richard: send note to www-international announcing switching to github digests and set up the digests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-584 - Send note to www-international announcing switching to github digests and set up the digests [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-02].

International text layout and typography index

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en

richard: suggesting we take the differently formatted material on justification and put in another place

<najib> +1

addison: +1

no objections noted

<david> +1

<scribe> ACTION: richard: move the justification materials to separate article and point to it from typography document [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-585 - Move the justification materials to separate article and point to it from typography document [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-02].

For internal review: Styling vertical Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Mongolian text

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en

richard: updated a bit
... new section on "default character orientation"
... some small changes and a few more comments to deal with

Definition of String in WHATWG

https://github.com/whatwg/infra/issues/1

<scribe> ACTION: addison: summarize whatwg string definition and recommend changes if needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/26-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-586 - Summarize whatwg string definition and recommend changes if needed [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-02-02].

<r12a> [[

<r12a> Code Point. (1) Any value in the Unicode codespace; that is, the range of integers from 0 to 10FFFF16. (See definition D10 in Section 3.4, Characters and Encoding.) Not all code points are assigned to encoded characters. See code point type. (2) A value, or position, for a character, in any coded character set.

<r12a> ]]