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<scribe> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jun/0030.html
https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close action-399
<trackbot> Closed action-399.
action-404?
<trackbot> action-404 -- Dennis Tan Tanaka to Check on zwj and friends in idna so that we can document in charmod-norm -- due 2015-02-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/404
we decided that idna and friends are out of scope for charmod
close action-404
<trackbot> Closed action-404.
reminder: sign up for TPAC!
richard: published the
specdev
... and counter styles else in TR using echidna
... was really easy
addison: saw your email will try with charmod
richard: unicode 9 released on
tuesday
... and uniview is updated
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
<scribe> ACTION: addison: ping martin about unicode in xml [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/23-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-534 - Ping martin about unicode in xml [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-30].
richard: no comments on time and
dates essential comments
... due yesterday
... so publish it?
yep
<JcK> FWIW, I forwarded the "time thing" announcement to a couple of IETF folks concerned about the issues, one of whom apparently re-forwarded to the mail calendaring list. So there should be no shortage of people with an opportunity to review
http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/159
richard: need to step back a bit more
<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/341
want to leave in, could be useful in some languages
use the incubator was suggested
addison: recollection was that
this was kept in for past compat, that list-style-type was
meant to replace it
... we'd want this taken away but for compat?
richard: if could auto-detect
label, that'd be a cool feature
... write note before we close it saying we don't agree?
<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/33
<scribe> ACTION: addison: add note to issue 33 saying we don't agree before closing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/23-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-535 - Add note to issue 33 saying we don't agree before closing [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-30].
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/128
close 127
127 is not a typo
close 128. theyy added type=submit to the ones that are default translatable
https://github.com/w3c/html/pull/503
https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/343
<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/133
add a question about whether to be addressed or not
and 5.1 or 5.2?
richard: closing all annotation model comments since no objections
css working group has been discussing plans for next charter period
scribe: and supposed to be 3 year
charter
... number of docs to rec in that time
... one is counter styles
... they expect it in rec in 2018
... thinking our draft might as well be a WG Note, rather than continue waiting for their publication
(predefined counter styles)
richard: it's currently a WD
call for a vote on publishing "custom built counter styles" as a WG Note
scribe: short name is predefined-counter-styles
<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/predefined-counter-styles/
+1
<r12a> +1
<najib> +1
<JcK> +1
<Steve_Atkin> +1
so resolved
<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish predefined-counter-styles as a WG Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/23-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-536 - Publish predefined-counter-styles as a wg note [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-06-30].
richard: need to take a decision
to publish a new version of the Encoding CR
... there have been substantive changes since October
<r12a> https://github.com/whatwg/encoding/issues
richard: re-worked the double
byte tests
... submitted pull requests to WPT
... link is to whatwg list for encoding
... created 7 issues there
... hoping they will get some impl discussion
... three possibilities
... one is to fix browser
... change spec to match browser
... or problem with the test
... hopefully not the last
<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding-dbl-byte.en
<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding-dbl-byte.en#gb18030
<scribe> ACTION: addison: file bugs against failing browsers, referring back to the encoding issue list, and update the encoding issues [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/23-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-537 - File bugs against failing browsers, referring back to the encoding issue list, and update the encoding issues [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-30].
richard: the encodings I reworked
was multibyte
... haven't revisited single byte tests, generally better
shape
... passing tests with two impls is a CR requirement
... weird thing here is 750K subtests
... when you see a "partial", that means like 0.0001% of tests
might have failed
... usually not more than 1%
... is a failure rate of < 1% mean it doesn't count
addison: very many tests where we don't have two
?
richard: majority
<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding-sb-dec
steven: gb18030 concerns me the most
richard: test here is conformance
to encoding spec
... might not be same as where gb18030 is defined elsewhere
... may be due to new version of 18030? maybe
18030:2005??
... anne doesn't expect mappings to be identical to other
people's
... based on browser behaivor
... or merging things
... more tests coming shortly through this process
... replacement encoding and utf-16 encodings and maybe
user-defined
steven: is there an impact on node.js
addison: js is a unicode beast
steven: need to think about more, want to think about it. could be subtle
resolve to publish a new CR?
richard: may need to pub another
one later
... problem is that current snapshot is confusing since it doesn't match whatwg version
... your TR isn't up to date
addison: can just track publish
if whatwg's changes
... mapping tables different from spec/algorithm
richard: no tests for API either
<scribe> ACTION: addison: work with richard and PLH to establish procedure for bringing changes to encoding forward [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/23-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-538 - Work with richard and plh to establish procedure for bringing changes to encoding forward [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-30].
resolve: in principle publish new encoding CR?
+1
<r12a> +1
<Steve_Atkin> +1
<najib> +1
<JcK> +1 (with procedural note)
addison: additional changes including exit of CR requires WG approval
<JcK> +1 with "in principle"