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Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

22 Jun 2016

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Attendees

Present
Janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, JF, Michiel_Bijl, fesch, MichaelC, ShaneM, rich_schwerdtfeger
Regrets
Chair
Janina
Scribe
fesch

Contents


preview agenda with items from two minutes

<scribe> scribe: fesch

js: anything to be added to agenda?
... : any news

mb: thank folks that donated to

<MichielBijl> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dictationbridge#/

Smart Descriptions & Smarter Vocabularies (SDSVoc) Workshop https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/

js: W3C workshop in November... are there any impacts on accessibility?
... anyone?

jw: if it leads to new metadata formats is of interest, may be connected with standardization activities - possible indirect implications for a11y

jf: see ref to libraries that have accessibility stuff - schema.org.... diagram center contributed... we should watch

fe: AI2 was bought by the same folks that own Freedom Scientific

COGA FPWD CfC http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jun/0008.html

mc: how will we watch this? Via WAI IG?

js: had CfCs on COGA working draft, open until midnight - only positive feedback so far

jf: I remember seeing two CfCs on two separate list

js: probably the other comes from WCAG which is their other parent

jf: can I respond to only one?

mc: if you are quite it counts as concurrence, if you object then you should respond

RQTF Recruiting http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jun/0042.html

js: has been announced, active recruiting begun ... Jason White will be the facilitator

jw: a small number people have responded, expecting more
... now is a good time to start thinking about issues for the TF, it is recruiting time... make folks aware

jf: we have a Deque person that is interested - Sailesh Panchang

TPAC 2016 Planning

js: registration...

jf: able to book in Hotel across the street

cs: I will be going

<ShaneM> I do plan to be there.

<MichaelC> APA TPAC 2016 meeting page

js: we need to start developing agenda for TPAC - other than CSS - we already are planning on CSS...

mc: link to meeting - if you have agenda notes can add things there

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8

action-2046

<trackbot> action-2046 -- Cynthia Shelly to Add headings for ordering in css aam http://github/w3c/aria/css-aam/css-aam.html -- due 2016-06-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2046

action-2040

<trackbot> action-2040 -- John Foliot to Reach out to ai2 on css scroll snap points -- due 2016-06-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2040

jf: not really about pointer lock - it is about CSS
... so when you scroll you snap if you have something like images... need to go and see if tab use case is addressed

<MichaelC> action-2040 due 1 week

<trackbot> Set action-2040 Reach out to ai2 on css scroll snap points due date to 2016-06-29.

<ShaneM> ACTION-2033

<trackbot> ACTION-2033 -- Shane McCarron to Review https://www.w3.org/tr/tracking-compliance/ tracking compliance and scope -- due 2016-06-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2033

sm: no accessibility issues directly, talk about consent which could

<MichaelC> close action-2033

<trackbot> Closed action-2033.

js: Cynthia how are we doing on the list of CSS specs?

cs: progress is being made, want to be on the same page as my developers

mc: we need this so we can work with CSS working group, need this soon

cs: really bad week for the person that is supposed to review it...

js: we need to work the conversation forward with a wider discussion, doesn't need to be final...

cs: should have it next week

ack

UI Events review

action-1750

<trackbot> action-1750 -- Cynthia Shelly to Review ui events -- due 2016-06-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/1750

<MichaelC> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Jun/0047.html

cs: sent to list
... interesting integration points, may need YAAM, under specified - talked to Travis for an hour on feedback
... browsers may implement deprecated stuff... authoring tools must not implement deprecated stuff... (going through email)
... Keypress is deprecated. This is because there wasn't implementation. Even though this feels most parallel to click, keydown is more widely supported. I think this is ok, given the implementation issues.
... multiple types of focus events
... click event .... input event ...
... continuing reviewing email

js: is this close to a group a people and see what is different from IndieUI

cs: worth exploring
... should send official feedback

js: Michael usually sends it - put on list first
... do we want Cynthia to draft a response?
... we can review our policy on feedback

RESOLUTION: Cynthia to send feedback on UI Events to CSS working group

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

<MichaelC> Custom Counter Styles

mc: we reviewed 2 years ago, sent comments but the ball got dropped did not follow up on Tav's response

js: lets agenda this

<MichaelC> ACTION: Lisa to re-review Custom Counter Styles https://www.w3.org/TR/predefined-counter-styles/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2062 - Re-review custom counter styles https://www.w3.org/tr/predefined-counter-styles/ [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-06-29].

<MichaelC> Internationalization Best Practices for Spec Developers

mc: have an old action on AT not handling unicode characters

<MichaelC> ACTION: Janina to review Internationalization Best Practices for Spec Developers https://www.w3.org/TR/international-specs/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2063 - Review internationalization best practices for spec developers https://www.w3.org/tr/international-specs/ [on Janina Sajka - due 2016-06-29].

mc: counterparts have a discussion on spec best practices

js: we have an interest...

<MichaelC> HTML 5.1

js: how do we understand this?

cs: Is Leone still in APA?

mc: in May we sent input on text alternative, Leone knows we care

<Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to talk about reviews

sm: we don't have a clue what changed from 5.0 to 5.1... good to look ... text alternatives don't work didn't get rolled in

js: need to follow up on it, could get in 5.2

mc: moves to rec July 19

cs: I will be a person reviewing

<ShaneM> I am on travel basically until then...

<MichaelC> action-2062: See notes on previous review from wiki https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Custom_Counter_Styles

<trackbot> Notes added to action-2062 Re-review custom counter styles https://www.w3.org/tr/predefined-counter-styles/.

mb: if we could look at the diff
... I can take parts...

sm: I am on travel the next month

<JF> hard stop, must duck out.

js: can you look at the diffs and by next week give an idea of the scope?

mc: we care mostly about changes

js: if you can see if two people are enough by next week?

<MichielBijl> Changes: http://w3c.github.io/html/changes.html#changes

<MichaelC> ACTION: cynthia to review HTML 5.1 diff to determine scope of review needed https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/changes.html#changes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2064 - Review html 5.1 diff to determine scope of review needed https://www.w3.org/tr/html51/changes.html#changes [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2016-06-29].

<MichaelC> ACTION: michiel to review HTML 5.1 diff to determine scope of review needed https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/changes.html#changes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2065 - Review html 5.1 diff to determine scope of review needed https://www.w3.org/tr/html51/changes.html#changes [on Michiel Bijl - due 2016-06-29].

js: MIchiel we ran out of time didn't get to you agenda item, Michiel has some text, please put it on list

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: cynthia to review HTML 5.1 diff to determine scope of review needed https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/changes.html#changes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Janina to review Internationalization Best Practices for Spec Developers https://www.w3.org/TR/international-specs/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Lisa to re-review Custom Counter Styles https://www.w3.org/TR/predefined-counter-styles/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: michiel to review HTML 5.1 diff to determine scope of review needed https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/changes.html#changes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/22-apa-minutes.html#action04]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Cynthia to send feedback on UI Events to CSS working group
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