W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

09 Jun 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Felix, Richard, Steve, JcK
Regrets
David
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

close action-520

<trackbot> Closed action-520.

action-522?

<trackbot> action-522 -- Addison Phillips to Html github issue 127 look into additional recommendations if any -- due 2016-05-19 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/522

did update

close action-522

<trackbot> Closed action-522.

action-526?

<trackbot> action-526 -- Richard Ishida to Provide note text to indicate that selection tools should take care in selecting boundaries -- due 2016-06-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/526

richard: didn't do, but think they have the text

close action-526

<trackbot> Closed action-526.

action-528?

<trackbot> action-528 -- Addison Phillips to Look into issue 123 and update as needed -- due 2016-06-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/528

created new html issue

close action-528

<trackbot> Closed action-528.

action-529?

<trackbot> action-529 -- Addison Phillips to Forward issue 122 to html -- due 2016-06-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/529

did that

close action-529

<trackbot> Closed action-529.

action-530?

<trackbot> action-530 -- Addison Phillips to Write to chairs@ with a note saying effectively "don't follow old lc model, giving us no time to react" -- due 2016-06-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/530

close action-530

<trackbot> Closed action-530.

close action-531

<trackbot> Closed action-531.

action-532?

<trackbot> action-532 -- Richard Ishida to Send a note to www-international asking for last call on deprecation of o-time and deprecate if no objection -- due 2016-06-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/532

close action-532

<trackbot> Closed action-532.

close action-533

<trackbot> Closed action-533.

Info Share

richard: note to chairs, brought up in global Staff
... added staff contacts to org reviews earlier
... labels
... so we see thigns in other's issues lists
... wai asked about "magic labels"

felix: attended loc world workshop this week

<fsasaki> http://locworld.localizationworl.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/FEISGILTTProgram2016.pdf

felix: FEIGSGILT
... link to program above
... several interesting things
... xliff om working on object model
... transfer loc content from json
... what we discussed a while ago
... interop between diff formats
... not just specific to i18n or l10n

<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/community/rax/

felix: not throw away what theyve done

<scribe> ... new CG related to that

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: many people in language processing
... extract text, annotate, merge back
... need workflow

<fsasaki> http://fsasaki.github.io/stuff/feisgiltt2016/

felix: talk I gave in link above
... xml, linked data
... hides content specific in js method
... metadata coordination would be useful
... demo is web annotation
... can put web annotation in
... both xpath and offset based selectors demoed

Radar

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/

steve: sent off 157
... couldn't add tags, labels, subscribers
... copied link into our github issue
... 158, added additional text proposal
... others richard closed

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/158

If specified, the value must be a single grapheme: a string that contains a sequence of graphical Unicode code points. Typically, this sequence will contain a single Unicode code point, but there may be cases where multiple code points are needed to generate the single grapheme.

(discussion of whether there are keyboard keys that produce a sequence)

remove graphical

richard: issue is with term printable character

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: urgent review requests

phil archer and sandro hawke

addison: don't recall will double check

richard: example

<r12a> क़ड़

Alt- and a keypress on hindi

<r12a> U+0958 U+0958 DEVANAGARI LETTER QA

<r12a> U+095C U+095C DEVANAGARI LETTER DDDHA

Alt+keystroke

<r12a> क़ड़

<r12a> U+0915 U+0915 DEVANAGARI LETTER KA

<r12a> U+093C U+093C DEVANAGARI SIGN NUKTA

<r12a> U+0921 U+0921 DEVANAGARI LETTER DDA

<r12a> U+093C U+093C DEVANAGARI SIGN NUKTA

next steps of Encoding spec

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jun/0015.html

richard: plh suggests publishing smaller snapshots
... trying hard not to fork
... some things happening

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-doc2

richard: some substantive changes
... may mean new CR needed?
... mostly raised dec/jan
... settling since
... have updated the tests
... apart from the ones that deal with replacement encoding and utf-16
... re-running tests
... some areas of progress in browser support
... figure out how to say where we have problems
... for 2 implementations
... a lot of times we need like one character fixed
... or two that are same and one different
... need a plan to bring attention of implementators to shortfalls

addison: mapping tables as errata?

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding-dbl-byte.en#zhhans

richard: a few more days to assemble data
... working on it, may need to discuss with addision+plh

specdev developments

please read it :-)

need to look again

richard: did radical reorg
... wanted to see if any major faux pas

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs?collapse

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/

These rewritten: Resources Blocks, paragraphs, or similar chunks of content

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/#sec_lang_decl

richard: to generate new material, went through issues we generated for web-annotation
... "what can I write to make these less likely"
... debrief after future reviews

file github issues

AOB?

https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/474

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/473

122 and 123

A health warning should make mention of this. Otherwise users might be surprised when they enter a "local" wall time and it is later returned as a different date or time value because of the difference between local wall time and UTC.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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