W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

02 Jun 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Steve_(partial), Najib
Regrets
Felix, JcK
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

<aphillip_> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

<aphillip_> close action-174

<trackbot> Closed action-174.

<aphillip_> close action-363

<trackbot> Closed action-363.

<aphillip_> close action-524

<trackbot> Closed action-524.

<aphillip_> close action-525

<trackbot> Closed action-525.

<aphillip_> close action-527

<trackbot> Closed action-527.

Info Share

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

HTML 5.1 Review

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/157

steve: the introduce a term "plain unicode string"
... is there a difference from just a string?

A Unicode or binary string, in some cases with a file name (itself a Unicode string), as per the drag data item kind.

richard: vote to send on

addison: +1

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/158

accesskey not validatable?

steve: propose text

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/159

addison: think case-insensitive is wrong here

richard: meant to say case sensitive

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/160

If the resulting value is not a recognized language tag, then it must be treated as an unknown language having the given language tag, distinct from all other languages. For the purposes of round-tripping or communicating with other services that expect language tags, user agents should pass unknown language tags through unmodified, and tagged as being BCP 47 language tags, so that subsequent services do not interpret the data as another type of language[CUT]

don't send 160

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/161

hasn't changed

not ideal situation, but based on previous disucssion, no change

don't send 161

najib: doesn't matter about case, case insensitive, right?

addison: meant to be case insensitive

In the current HTML5.1 spec, the input type=datetime-local value is back. However the floating time language is present. Removing datetime-local from 5.0 may not have been the best move, since I later learned that type was widely used on mobile devices. So, we have interop with Edge, and Chrome implement, Firefox stable does not, not sure about Safari. Seems a little heavy-handed now to remove it.

<scribe> ACTION: addison: look into issue 123 and update as needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-528 - Look into issue 123 and update as needed [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-09].

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/122

forward 122

<scribe> ACTION: addison: forward issue 122 to html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-529 - Forward issue 122 to html [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-09].

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/128

https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/230

How to stop WGs following the old LC model

<scribe> ACTION: addison: write to chairs@ with a note saying effectively "don't follow old LC model, giving us no time to react" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-530 - Write to chairs@ with a note saying effectively "don't follow old lc model, giving us no time to react" [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-09].

richard: 1. have a look at self-review checklist
... and 2. and ask for review at FPWD
... and 3. don't leave a small amount of time before CR

addison: should horizontal review be a process step earlier??

<scribe> ACTION: richard: add big orange box link for "how to get a review" and pointer to spec dev [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-531 - Add big orange box link for "how to get a review" and pointer to spec dev [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-06-09].

proposed deprecation: Dates and Time

addison: park new terminology here?

richard: inclined to put in a new location and put this out to pasture

https://www.w3.org/International/O-time

<scribe> ACTION: richard: send a note to www-international asking for last call on deprecation of O-time and deprecate if no objection [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-532 - Send a note to www-international asking for last call on deprecation of o-time and deprecate if no objection [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-06-09].

Web Annotations (further discussion)

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/web-annotation/issues/227

(after discussion) just remove bogus normalizaiton requirement paragraph?

normalize to do comparisons

<scribe> ACTION: addison: update web-annotation 227 to say that WG thinks the normalization requirements should be removed and a health warning to do normalization on comparison might be needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-533 - Update web-annotation 227 to say that wg thinks the normalization requirements should be removed and a health warning to do normalization on comparison might be needed [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-06-09].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: forward issue 122 to html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: look into issue 123 and update as needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: update web-annotation 227 to say that WG thinks the normalization requirements should be removed and a health warning to do normalization on comparison might be needed [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: write to chairs@ with a note saying effectively "don't follow old LC model, giving us no time to react" [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: add big orange box link for "how to get a review" and pointer to spec dev [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: send a note to www-international asking for last call on deprecation of O-time and deprecate if no objection [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/02-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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