W3C

- DRAFT -

Cognitive Accessibility Task Force

23 Feb 2015

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
JohnRochford, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, +1.718.618.aaaa, Lisa_Seeman, +1.908.907.aabb, jimtobias, +972.5.328.1aacc, ayelet_s, Katie_Haritos-Shea, janina, Michael_Cooper
Regrets
Steve_Lee, EA, Deborah_Dahl
Chair
Lisa_Seeman
Scribe
JohnRochford

Contents


<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford

<Lisa_Seeman> next item

Presentation, by Susann & John, at CSUN 2015, about our task force: http://www.csun.edu/cod/conference/2015/sessions/index.php/public/presentations/view/342

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open

Lisa: C
... Concerned we are behind on action items.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: John Rochford to add techneques for autisim to https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, JohnRochford).

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: JohnRochford to add techneques for autisim to https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Add techneques for autisim to https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html [on John Rochford - due 2015-03-02].

<Lisa_Seeman> next item

<jimtobias> http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/proposed-rule/

Lisa: 508 call for comments: what do we want to do?

<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.access-board.gov/attachments/article/1702/ict-proposed-rule.pdf

<Lisa_Seeman> next item

Jim: No inclusion of CD accessibility in 508, uphill battle to do so
... What do we want to do?

<janina> Are we talking about 508?

<Lisa_Seeman> yes

Katie: We should recommend CD should be included in 508 from a functional perspective.
... We should include specifics for performance criteria.

Rich: 508 refresh has not changed much in the past 3 years and, within that time, there were no suggestions about CD accessibility.
... There may not be acceptance of CD accessibility-related feedback now.
... 508 has waited 17 years for refresh. Perhaps we should make suggestions for next version.

Janina: Probably not practical, at this late stage, to provide COGA feedback.
...
... Agrees with Rich.
... COGA task force cannot provide feedback ourselves: feedback has to go through WAI/Judy.

Lisa: Not providing feedback will affect a whole generation of people, especially if we have to wait another 10 years for a refresh.
... We will have to keep the W3C-formal process in mind for providing feedback.
... I think it's a marvelous time to provide feedback (by May 28) about such items as Voice ML (pressing 0 for help).
... I don't think it will be a distraction for us to suggest COGA performance criteria.

<Ryladog> I suggest one specific additions to the Functional Performance Criteria. Add: 302.9 With Cognitive Language and Learning Disabilities. Where a mode of operation is provided, ICT shall provide at least one mode of operation that is operable by persons with Cognitive Language and Learning Disabilities.

Katie: I think we should request an addition of 302.9 to at least get our foot in the door, but nothing else.
... Adding that would not limit the scope of 508.

Janina: Suggests we write this up and send it to Judy to see if she thinks she has an opportunity to present it to 508.

Jim: Not clear to me what the access board intends to do about suggested added techniques.
... Agrees to suggest an added performance criteria.

Rich: I think access board is supposed to be coming back with techniques about how to meet 508.

Janina: Yes, I think so: techniques are not fixed, and can be improved.

Katie: Access board will be pointing to WCAG for techniques about how to meet AA and AAA.

<Ryladog> Katie: Correction: Access Board will be pointing to WCAG for techniques about how to meet A and AA.

John: Thanks, Katie.

Lisa: What should we do as a next step?
... Wants input from active UK members.

Katie: Agrees to Lisa's request to write up something to send to Judy for 508.

Janina: I'm not comfortable with 508-related work because it is scope creep.

Michael: If 508 work galvanizes the group, that's great, but would not want the work to be a distraction to our group.

<jimtobias> yes, that sounds right to me. thanks.

<Lisa_Seeman> next item

Lisa: We have a volunteer to manage citations.
... Volunteer = Ayelet_s

<Lisa_Seeman> next item

Ayelet: Should I post questions about missing information to group, or to inviduals who referenced the citations?

Correction: articles needing citations

Lisa: Suggests asking individuals and, if no response, asking group.

<Lisa_Seeman> next item

<Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Feb/0048.html

Lisa: Also asks Ayelet (who agrees) to send citations to John for inclusion in research page.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Feb/0040.html

<neilM> sorry I was soo late I had an overrun

<neilM> cannot get in to zakim

Lisa

Lisa: Thinks we should ask Steve, who provided us feedback, for the research upon which he is relying.

<jimtobias> i have to go; thanks for your time and careful consideration.

Lisa: Should I send Steve an email message asking for the research?

Janina: Yes.

+1

<richardschwerdtfeger> +1

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa to ask steve for more information on reserch that disagrees with what we have cited [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Ask steve for more information on reserch that disagrees with what we have cited [on Lisa Seeman - due 2015-03-02].

Lisa: Who wants a call next week?

-1

Lisa: Please sign up for face-to-face meeting as soon as you can.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/67703/201504_ftf/

<neilM> sorry I cannot get any phone connection

Lisa: No call next week.

<neilM> I should be around next week

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: John Rochford to add techneques for autisim to https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: JohnRochford to add techneques for autisim to https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to ask steve for more information on reserch that disagrees with what we have cited [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html#action03]
 
[End of minutes]

Minutes formatted by David Booth's scribe.perl version 1.140 (CVS log)
$Date: 2015/02/23 23:11:30 $

Scribe.perl diagnostic output

[Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.]
This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.140  of Date: 2014-11-06 18:16:30  
Check for newer version at http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/

Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00)

Found Scribe: JohnRochford
Inferring ScribeNick: JohnRochford

WARNING: No "Topic:" lines found.

Default Present: JohnRochford, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, +1.718.618.aaaa, Lisa_Seeman, +1.908.907.aabb, jimtobias, +972.5.328.1aacc, ayelet_s, Katie_Haritos-Shea, janina, Michael_Cooper
Present: JohnRochford Rich_Schwerdtfeger +1.718.618.aaaa Lisa_Seeman +1.908.907.aabb jimtobias +972.5.328.1aacc ayelet_s Katie_Haritos-Shea janina Michael_Cooper
Regrets: Steve_Lee EA Deborah_Dahl
Got date from IRC log name: 23 Feb 2015
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2015/02/23-coga-minutes.html
People with action items: john johnrochford lisa rochford

WARNING: Input appears to use implicit continuation lines.
You may need the "-implicitContinuations" option.


WARNING: No "Topic: ..." lines found!  
Resulting HTML may have an empty (invalid) <ol>...</ol>.

Explanation: "Topic: ..." lines are used to indicate the start of 
new discussion topics or agenda items, such as:
<dbooth> Topic: Review of Amy's report


[End of scribe.perl diagnostic output]