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<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
close ACTION-212
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-212 Prepare KLReq for FPWD and usher through publication process.
close ACTION-222
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-222 Talk to robin about HTML5 bidi proposal next steps.
close ACTION-223
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-223 Follow up on status of encoding spec.
<scribe> ACTION: addison: prepare encoding spec for FPWD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-226 - Prepare encoding spec for FPWD [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-05-23].
close ACTION-224
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-224 Ask for feedback on update techniques documents on the winter list.
close ACTION-225
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-225 Send addison pointer to respec instructions etc..
richard: published KLReq
(general applause)
richard: report for Rome ML workshop released
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2013/05/14/rome-multilingualweb-workshop-report-now-available/
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013May/0026.html
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/bp-html-bidi/
richard: had a few comments on
this
... some from Amir
... doc is so simple now could put in direct links
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/bp-html-bidi/#ri20030218.135303232
matial: make icon clearer
... and put note in start to say what it is
... make larger and add color
richard: good idea
... wanted to discuss if I should forge ahead with language one
also
... and give same treatment
matial: good treatment
... put the details offline and see via icon is good
richard: will go ahead with language document too
richard: question is: should we
track comments using tracker?
... Korean authors are on CJK list
... and then they'd do something about it
... not sure if they are looking or will take action?
... would it help if we had a list?
addison: would be helpful to be
able to tick off the collected list
... think they can see tracker??
richard: some private comments sent to me personally, have asked folks to put on public cjk list
<scribe> ACTION: richard: set up KLReq in tracker and start shepherding comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-227 - Set up KLReq in tracker and start shepherding comments [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-05-23].
http://inter-locale.com/w3c/charmod-norm-1.1-draft.html
richard: had response from Robin for next steps
aharon: will work on tests
richard: when you do
that...
... was difficult to tell if tests worked
... not in any particular order and many edge cases
... and we have links from places like techniques
... to "test your browser", for example
... would be great if you could develop the tests in that
way
aharon: existing tests such as
dir=auto
... some meet that--very simple and core demonstrations
<r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/html-css/bidi-html5/results-bidi-html5#dirauto
aharon: not really an addition-to, but knowing which one is the basic demo
richard: link is the one on
dir=auto
... found some tests that I pulled up into "basic"
... also found, in some cases, needed to "tease apart" some of
the tests
... because they appeared to do more than one thing
... if remember correctly the original test, for example, did
both isolation and ordering
... but maybe should separate?
aharon: agree tests should test one thing
richard: need to ensure
everything going in spec is ready and correct
... check CSS is correct
... and secton on Unicode controls
... section is in 5.1 but not 5.0 yet
... check that it's all correct
... and then robin knows what to do in rendering section
... get into 5.1 so he can pull it for 5.0 when
implemented
... and we need implementers
... want it in 5.0
... because in CR now, need implementations if we want in 5.0.
definitely can get into 5.1
aharon: two parts
... 1. the markup
... 2. support for unicode chars
... since new unicode chars won't be in 5.0 anyway; requires
updating UBA in browsers
... that takes time
... but markup uses css and already works in WK, blink, and
moz
... moz has a few small problems
... only solved by new UBA
addison: only need two
aharon: so if WK and blink could do it
richard: some discussion?
... but that would maybe suffice in robin's opinion?
aharon: could push to make that happen if already in 5.1
richard: can add to 5.1 straight
away
... just need to talk to robin to get text right
... aim for 5.0 for markup
... and add chars support in 5.1
aharon: action me for next week to go over and probably produce changes in text for 5.1
<scribe> ACTION: aharon: file bug on 5.1 and review text, pinging robin about how best to file [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/05/16-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-228 - File bug on 5.1 and review text, pinging robin about how best to file [on Aharon Lanin - due 2013-05-23].
aharon: review text in private email with robin/richard and get on same page and then, if needed, file bug
richard: robin can advise if need to email HTML-WG