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<trackbot> Date: 13 September 2012
chair sean hayes
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<trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 13 September 2012
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<trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 13 September 2012
chair sean
scribe mmartin3
plh: Profile published.
<plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/WD-ttml10-sdp-us-20120913/
<plh> http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml10-sdp-us/
sean: Discuss editorial items.
mmartin3: See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Sep/0019.html
Glenn responded to the editorial issues.
plh: No checked in.
sean: Do after published draft.
plh: Republish to integrate changes.
Section 6.6.2
sean: Can't have note; must be consistent with TTML 1.0.
Could add a note that is specific to TTML 1.0.
create action monica add note to section 6.6.2 to ttml 1.0 section to give guidance.
<plh> ACTION: monica add note to section 6.6.2 to ttml 1.0 section to give guidance. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/13-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Add note to section 6.6.2 to ttml 1.0 section to give guidance. [on Monica Martin - due 2012-09-20].
: No more than four lines of text MUST be selected into a region at any given time.
No more than four lines of text MUST be selected into all active regions at any given time.
sean: Mimic CEA-608.
mike: Necessary to constrain?
sean: Currently infers you could
have up to 16 lines.
... Constrain text delivery rate.
mike: Unnecessary. Can you be more specific to what is needed.
sean: Limit processing power.
mmartin3: Section 7.1.1
mike: Add "a total". Need at a given time?
sean: Can delete "at a given time."
<scribe> ACTION: Monica revise proposal Section 7.1.1 from: [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/13-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Revise proposal Section 7.1.1 from: [on Monica Martin - due 2012-09-20].
No more than four lines of text MUST be selected into all active regions at any given time.
Change to: No more than a total of four lines of text MUST be selected into all active regions/
c//.
Section 8.1.2
Change from: Durations (dur) SHALL only be used on the span element.
Change to: Durations (dur) SHALL only be used on the span element for rollup style content.
Section 8.2.1
Conflict – The time-offset-with-frames feature requires #subFrameRate feature. We only use #frameRate and #frameRateMultiplier features. The time-offset-with-frames was mistakenly included to pertain to the hh:mm:ss:ff notation. This is not the case. The time-offset-with-frames pertains to the 100f notation.
mike: May need more attention to do cleanup to align TTML 1.0.
Check against second edition.
<mike> o rmaybe 3rd edition
Section 8.3
Note: Use of the #frameRateMultiplier is optional in the document (see Section 10).
Add this note.
Abstract
Change from: This interoperability profile is a proper subset of TTML 1.0 plus features required to support US Government closed captioning requirements for online presentation.
Change to: This interoperability profile is a proper subset of TTML 1.0 to support features required for US Government closed captioning requirements for online presentation.
mike: What about easy reader?
sean: What is the concern?
... Explains wording.
mike: Both are wrong.
Doesn't handle them all.
Need to soften text.
<scribe> ACTION: Monica To soften text in Abstract regarding USG requirements. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/13-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Soften text in Abstract regarding USG requirements. [on Monica Martin - due 2012-09-20].
Updates to fontFamily weren’t reflected in A.1.
Change from: The casual, cursive and smallcap styles could be considered for addition to <genericFamilyName> expression in a future version of TTML.
Change to: The casual, cursive and smallCaps styles could be considered for TTML 1.1.
“Error handling behavior is found in Error Handling.”
add a link and this note.
Conformance section
Use smallCaps on all references.
Across the document.
Correct example numbering: Example 1 has no E000X. Example 2-4 have incorrect example numbers (i.e. Example 2 is E0001, Example 3 is E0002, etc.).
Issue: Background color and color have "named colors" but should be expressed in #rrggbbaa format only. Proposal: Implement change found here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Aug/0043.html. Proposed by Andrew Tai.
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-181 - Background color and color have "named colors" but should be expressed in #rrggbbaa format only. Proposal: Implement change found here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Aug/0043.html. Proposed by Andrew Tai. ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/181/edit .
Andreas not Andrew
Add Glenn as the editor.
<scribe> ACTION: Glenn implement changes requested with the actions identified for SDP-US FPWD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/13-tt-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-100 - Implement changes requested with the actions identified for SDP-US FPWD. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-20].
plh: Where did the request go?
mike: Sent to member list.
plh, sean: Didn't see it.
Went into moderation list.
<plh> From mdolan@newtbt.com Wed Sep 12 13:24:02 2012
<plh> Subject: [Moderator Action (size limit exceeded)] FW: SMPTE Liaison to W3C on
mike: Will resend the email.
sean: TTWG members only.
Discuss next week.
<Frans> very hard to follow
Action-82?
<trackbot> ACTION-82 -- Monica Martin to check on mapping of 708 7F -- due 2012-08-16 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/82
mmartin3: Add note that glyphs are player dependent.
<plh> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2012Sep/0213.html
<plh> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2012Sep/0214.html
mike: Will put the proper headers and send the email.
Back to Action-82.
Note: The glyphs used for specific fonts are player dependent.
<Frans> Have to go - as announced. Thank you. Intend to join next one again.
sean: Restates proposal.
mike: Has to be consistent with the Unicode.
sean: Exact appearance of the symbol.
<Sean> should reflect the semantics as stated in unicode, but the exact glyph is player dependant
<scribe> ACTION: Monica Revise proposal for Action-82 for the Note to reflect: Should reflect semantics suggested in Unicode but the actual symbol is player dependent. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/09/13-tt-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-101 - Revise proposal for Action-82 for the Note to reflect: Should reflect semantics suggested in Unicode but the actual symbol is player dependent. [on Monica Martin - due 2012-09-20].
Adobe, Michael Jordan
sean: In addition to Sept 20 meeting
Close issues then.
mike: See comments I made.
... Happy to close Action-82 with updated text.
Close Action-82 with revised text.
<Michael> exit
trackbot, end meeting
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