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<plh> regrets for the call unfortunately
<plh> stuck in other meetings
Present
Andrew_Kirkpatrick, mike, sean, pal, mmartin3
<AWK> I give up!
Chair
Sean Hayes
First public working draft
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10-sdp-us/Overview.html
mmartin3: Patent URI, fontFamily, HTML cleanup completed.
sean: Explain new strings for fontFamily
mmartin: Add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference?
sean: Add placeholder.
Create ACTION: Glenn add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference.
mike: Handle Glenn's comments.
sean: Yes.
pal: FPWD is not final?
<pal> is the scope of changes limited against a FPWD?
<scribe> ACTION: Glenn add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Add TTML 1.0 Second Edition reference. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-06].
Resolved to move SDP-US to FPWD.
<scribe> ACTION: Glenn move SDP-US to FPWD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Move SDP-US to FPWD. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-06].
sean: Hold on resolution for one comment from Glenn? re: description on character edge.
<scribe> ACTION: Monica Provide description for character edge. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Provide description for character edge. [on Monica Martin - due 2012-09-06].
http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001
Modifications to set attribute to take a block of elements.
sean: Modifications to set attribute to take a block of elements.
<pal> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
Resolution: Accepted Change Proposal001 http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001
<scribe> ACTION: Glenn integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Integrate http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal001 to TTML 1.1. [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-09-06].
sean: Extent and origin on
p
... Move to accept.
mike: Some questions.
... What is origin relative to?
sean: Root container (Glenn's change).
mike: Can be outside of container?
sean: Anonymous region.
... Follow semantics.
mike: TTML 1.0 is precise but difficult to follow path to using solution.
Need more prose?
mike: Specify anonymous region.
sean: Will craft language to explain processing in an informative way.
mike: Need to have normative rather than informative language.
sean: Normative is step 6. Add text.
mike: Add definition of origin and extent?
sean: Editor craft language 8.2.14
mike: Describe intent particularly origin.
sean: Add more text.
pal: Agree with proposal but
agree with Mike on more language.
... Relative to region?
sean: Glenn said original proposal was too complicated.
pal: Discuss positioning.
sean: For simplicity, assume global coordinates not relative to the parent container.
mike: Inherit region properties.
Add information to articulate this.
pal: Agree.
... Background color associated with p?
sean: Yes.
... Will work on more normative propose about positioning.
mike: Section 8
sean: Section 9.3.3 is normative and put more text in Section 8.
pal: Asks about how to apply
opacity to default region.
... How to set opacity?
sean: Should create information to handle this.
<scribe> ACTION: Sean to do revisions to proposal http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002 that explains positionig. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Do revisions to proposal http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002 that explains positionig. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-09-06].
<scribe> ACTION: Sean Do revisions to proposal that explains opacity. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/08/30-tt-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Do revisions to proposal that explains opacity. [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-09-06].
mike: How to animate
region?
... Animate at head?
sean: Handled in proposal 1.
mike: What if apply to region or block?
sean: Addressed by Proposal 1.
awk: What happens if identify region and does specify the origin?
sean: If no named region, everything goes to default. If you don't specify a region, text is pruned.
Won't work on some documents.
?ACTION-80
ACTION-80?
<trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Monica Martin to create statement of use case and regional naming on SDP -- due 2012-08-16 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/80
ISSUE-179?
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/179
sean: Please review.
sean: Speak with Glenn.
... Pixel metric defined for XSL.
Doesn't mean device pixels but audio.
mike: Question what knowledge is available for authoring?
sean: We may be making
conformance changes to address px measure.
... Remove reference to XSL pixel.
mike: Add language that if an author fails to put extent on root container, behavior is application defined.
<scribe> scribe: mmartin3
scribe mmartin3
close meeting
close this meeting
trackbot, close meeting
<trackbot> Sorry, mmartin3, I don't understand 'trackbot, close meeting'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
trackbot, end meeting
plh, are you here?
<plh> in an other meeting
<plh> but can kind of read here
ok.
I generated the minutes but had the order backwards to close the meeting. I am uncertain if it generated the actual minutes.
Getting better. :>
thanks
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