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<trackbot> Date: 13 October 2011
<scribe> Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon
<paulc> I am testing whether the long URL actually works.
<scribe> scribe: janina
paulc: Relates to WG Action-204
<paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/204?changelog
paulc: Sam got no response
... Chairs have no consensus on escalation
... However, bug originator has that authority -- to
escalate
... So, if disatisfied, originator can escalate to an issue
<paulc> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13181
<paulc> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13176
paulc: Want to be clear I'm not telling anyone to do this, just laying out the option
judy: A bit confused here ...
<paulc> Description P1 bugs and their processing: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0315.html
janina: The problem for us is the desire to try and resolve how to move forward without getting into the world of cp's and counter-cp's, and surveys simply because the editor isn't responding
paulc: adding the tracker request
means the bugs will likely be issues within a day or so
... at that point the time clock on cp's etc starts
... else, if we leave this to dec 31, which is the editor's
deadline,
rich: we're also waiting on
maciej response on draw focus ring, as he's asked for
changes
... Maciej asked we split this out, our question is 'does it
look OK'
paulc: On that, I have no more I can add
rich: feel like we're squeezed in part because we're waiting a month for a response from one of the chairs
janina: Think there are two things here getting tangled
paulc: One is the process of bug handling then escalating
janina: Second is the attemtp to respond to Maciej's suggestion. Have we satisfied his suggestion? We're unclear and have no response on that
judy: Wondering if we need to
revisit coordination
... Think Paul has been clear with us, but some of this goes
beyond
... Suggest we assign this to us, myself, Janina, Paul, etc to
take on a coordination level
rich: How do I reopen Issue-131
paulc: Is this this topic, or
rich: Maciej says 'reopen issue-131' but i don't know how
paulc: Looking ...
<MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0138.html "Final decision on Issue-131"
paulc: Suggest an email publically saying why the request to reopen
<paulc> Here is the link to ISSUE-131: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
rich: Will Maciej be on the WG call, I want to ask whether he's happy with the changes before I move forward with the request to reopen
paulc: Suggest as part of the a11y report
<MikeSmith> janina: Media subteam has not planned to meet for some time
janina: Media not currently active, though we need to ping on a couple issues
<MikeSmith> ... John and I have discussed a couple things we need to get together to talk about more, but we have not done that yet
judy: On text
<Judy> http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-text-minutes.html
judy: New time not working, will
try Tuesdays at 1PM Boston
... On longdesc, John has responded at length to Jonas
... Janina is completing a brief response on Matt's cp
... Maciej had suggested to fold John's content into Laura's
cp
paulc: Don't think this is a chairs response, just a suggestion from Maciej
judy: On meta generator -- Janina
coordinating with Steve Faulkner's proposal, not yet
settled
... On Table Summary, progress on expanded uses cases,
... the css generated content questin now morphing into
something that PF will discuss with CSS
mike: Think Maciej's comment was simply his own suggestion
judy: Question we're concerned is whether our response to Jonas will be considered as sufficient group response
<Stevef> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitlev2
mike: Next Bug Triage
leonie: Almost done with priority
evaluation, we've changed two, I think
... Next we go through to manage that there is sufficient info,
etc
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12964
Steve: Seems Silvia asked some open ended questions, therefore the current status
michael: Perhaps Silvia neglect to change bug status?
mike: Sounds right. I'm moving it to 'reopened'
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11956
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11956#c12
mike: Editor says he doesn't
understand the problem, where's the responsibility?
... This has been there awhile
steve: Feel like a continuing
runaround
... Will look at it but feel it's something that won't be
addressed, feels futilie
... Issue seems common sense to me
judy: Anything we can do to
facilitate this?
... Seems we've a few issues today with "sand in the gears"
steve: Editor has formally objected to reversions
paulc: Both revert requests were
reverted by chairs
... Ian' has formal object to that
<MikeSmith> http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/html5/spec/Overview.html.diff?r1=1.5345;r2=1.5346;f=h
<paulc> Formal objections: http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/formal-objection-status.html
judy: So my suggestion is do the next step, with apologies that it's needed to be done
steve ok
<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10784
mike: This is issue-32, where we have a decision
janina, also not favored in the TF
michael: We can't assume Gregory will be back in a time frame we can work with
mike: Suggest removing a11ytf keyword
janina, agree
[no objection on call]
Steve Faulkner volunteers
ah, that should have been 20 October!
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