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SSN XG

12 Oct 2010

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Payam, laurent_lefort_cs, Arthur, Cory, Amit
Regrets
Alexandre, Andriy, Kerry, Kevin, Michael, Myriam, Oscar, Raul
Chair
Laurent
Scribe
Arthur

Contents


<laurent_lefort_cs> zakim +??P2 is me

<laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-ssn-minutes.html

<laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Arthur

Status of report

<Payam> it looks nice!

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Incubator_Report

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Report_Work_on_the_SSN_ontology

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Review_of_Sensor_and_Observations_Ontologies#Sensei_Observation_and_Measurement_Ontology

laurent_lefort_cs: some ontology reviews are not described using the questionnaire (we used for reviewing). So those need to be put into same format.

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Ontology_Scope

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Report_Ontology_Structure

laurent_lefort_cs: the picture (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Ontology_Scope) shows the use of the ontology by the different use cases

<Payam> This page is very clear with the new figures

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Upper

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Model

laurent_lefort_cs: using process as a specification of a method

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Sensor

laurent_lefort_cs: this one is finished too.

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Observation

<scribe> ACTION: laurent_lefort_cs to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - laurent_lefort_cs

<Payam> bottom of the page- the figure has question marks??

<Payam> is this correct?

<scribe> ACTION: laurent to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-10-19].

<Payam> same the bullet points shoud go

<laurent_lefort_cs> Put three dots

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Deploy

<Payam> deploy- there is a mistake in the last example snippet : XMLSchema#string">21 μA</DUL:hasDataValue>

<Payam> it shoud be aligned with DOLCE unit and value

<Payam> I must fix it :)

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Base

<scribe> ACTION: to Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to

<scribe> ACTION: Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [on Payam Barnaghi - due 2010-10-19].

<Payam> +q

laurent_lefort_cs: condition example is important because it is tricky to use

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN#Module_Data

<Payam> I think a short description and link to data pagewill do

laurent_lefort_cs: two other parts are missing energy and communication

<Payam> +q

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:SSN-kitchen-example-obs-value.jpg

Payam: we should not add to many details like this to the ontology, some examples using this parts would be enough.

<Payam> if the figure is updated; I will also add the text - I agree with a simpler example

<Payam> agree!

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Uni_deployment

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Smart_product

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Agriculture_Meteorology_Sensor_Network

<pramod> hi this is Amit

<pramod> see http://knoesis.org/library/resource.php?id=780

<pramod> there is a prior work on Linked Sensor Data

<Payam> this is good that we have examples with different levels of granularity...

Arthur: I think it makes sense to keep the latency class since it is directly related to the sensor readings. All the other communication related things can be offered by another specialized communication ontology when needed.

<pramod> there is also 1.7billion triples we have already posted

<pramod> which is part of linked sensor data

<pramod> here is the data: http://wiki.knoesis.org/index.php/LinkedSensorData

<Payam> it is good to add a reference to Amit's paper in this page to demonstrate an application of annotated sensor data in this field.

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Agriculture_Meteorology_Sensor_Network

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Wind_Sensor

laurent_lefort_cs: this page gives an overview how to use our ontology with different level of details
... things these parts are ready to be reviewed

Review organisation

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43337/SSN-XGR-Review/

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43337/SSN-XGR-Review/results

+q

<Payam> +q

<Payam> +q

Discussion on what parts of the review should go to the wiki and what part to the questionnaire

<laurent_lefort_cs> 3 types of entries

<laurent_lefort_cs> - minor changes directly through the wiki wiki

<laurent_lefort_cs> - major changes through bottom of wiki page or mailing list (same as currently)

<laurent_lefort_cs> - reviewer evaluation of completness, quality .. through the questionnaire (to avoid indexing by google - access is limited to XG members)

<laurent_lefort_cs> s/coomlet/complet/

Status of section 5

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Report_Conclusion_and_Recommendations

<laurent_lefort_cs> Thanks everyone

<Payam> thanks and bye!

<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Laurent to re-create the questionnaire to record reviewers participation and non-public comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Re-create the questionnaire to record reviewers participation and non-public comments [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-10-19].

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Laurent to re-create the questionnaire to record reviewers participation and non-public comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: laurent to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: laurent_lefort_cs to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: to Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html#action03]
 
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