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<kerry> zakim. +61.4.097 is me
<krp> zakin, +0238059aabb is me
This is a test
<Payam> I can help
<kerry> scribenick: vhuang
<cory> calling in now
<cory> sorry i'm late
<laurent_lefort_cs> Minutes from previous meeting http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-minutes.html
<laurent_lefort_cs> Work plan Semantic Markup http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Mark_up
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Mappings_Deliverable
No comments on Semantic Mark up.
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Terminology_and_Term_Provenance_in_the_Ontology
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: Can we add information saying which part of the ontology a class belongs to (e.g. like a using skos:inScheme) ?
<Payam> +q
<kerry> suggesting use a new annotation property for each "part" of the ontology -- and the annotation property may not be filled in (I'm not sure this quite makes sense)
<kerry> maybe payams is beter
<Payam> a different approach could be annotating new concepts or concepts that have been adapted from other ontologies
<Payam> and preserving namespace for concepts which are directly included from external ontolgies
<kerry> i am not comforatble with "preserving namespace"
<laurent_lefort_cs> Vote on the idea to group things together within the same OWL file:
<laurent_lefort_cs> +1
<kerry> i don't get it either
<kerry> i think we need a worked out proposal before voting on this
<cory> what are the groups?
<kerry> ok
<Payam> question: do we need an annotation?
<michael> +q
<laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: use the reference to the documentation page as the structuring/grouping method
<laurent_lefort_cs> Vote on Michael's proposal:
<laurent_lefort_cs> +1
<kerry> +q
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Terminology_and_Term_Provenance_in_the_Ontology
<Arthur> I like the idea to group concepts inside the owl file, but I am not sure how you would do it. (question to Laurent)
Kerry, using ontology as reference to the wiki when there is no automatic way to do it.
<Payam> +q
Payam, using RDF "seeAlso" to the wiki page.
<Payam> using kerry's proposal: RDF rdfs:comments + RDF rdf:seeAlso to refer to wiki page
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_utilvocab
<kerry> +q
<michael> +q
<kerry> +q
<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Kerry to add usage of see also in wiki page documenting annotations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Add usage of see also in wiki page documenting annotations [on Kerry Taylor - due 2010-06-15].
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Key_Sensor_Concepts
<Luis_Bermudez> im here
<michael> +q
<Luis_Bermudez> +q
<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent describing the content of the two pages and the intent to identify the sub-deliverables of the Ontology work packages
<laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: Reminder that figure in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Key_Sensor_Concepts does not reflect exactly the current ontology
Luis, we should have one wiki page where all ontology linked to each other.
<kerry> +q
<Luis_Bermudez> +q
<laurent_lefort_cs> Discussion on how the external ontologies are related to the XG ontology: extensions/examples or mappings
Luis will capture the differences between the ontologies.
<Payam> +q
<Luis_Bermudez> +q
<Payam> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology
Payam, we need to define the terminalogy first then see how it aligns with other ontology.
<Luis_Bermudez> +q
Laurent, we need examples.
<michael> +q
Michael, all these parts are linked together, they belong to the same ontology.
<kerry> this makes a lot of sense to me -- as long as it all stays in the same file at the end
<kerry> i think laurent is also suggesting examples in separate files -- i think we can do this too
<kerry> +q
<kerry> sorry folks -- it can wait
<laurent_lefort_cs> ISSUE-5 Separation of examples - Delivery of the SSN XG ontology and of examples in separate files
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/track/issues/5
<laurent_lefort_cs> ISSUE-6 Pub. on ext. web sites - Versions of the SSN ontology published on external web sites
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/track/issues/6
<Payam> +q
<kerry> -kerry
Payam will present group activity next at ICT summit. Please submit any issues to him.
<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Laurent to define the final place where the XG ontology will be delivered [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-ssn-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-30 - Define the final place where the XG ontology will be delivered [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-06-15].
<laurent_lefort_cs> ISSUE-7 Doc format/generation - Documentation format - Generation of documentation derived from the OWL file
<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/track/issues/7
<laurent_lefort_cs> OGC TC Meeting in Silver Spring Luis will be there
<Luis_Bermudez> bye
<laurent_lefort_cs> s/suing/using/
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