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SSN XG

08 Jun 2010

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
Payam, laurent_lefort_cs, michael, vhuang, Arthur, kerry, krp, +1.937.775.aacc, +1.202.408.aadd
Regrets
Chair
Laurent
Scribe
vhuang

Contents


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<kerry> zakim. +61.4.097 is me

<krp> zakin, +0238059aabb is me

This is a test

<Payam> I can help

Previous meeting

<kerry> scribenick: vhuang

<cory> calling in now

<cory> sorry i'm late

<laurent_lefort_cs> Minutes from previous meeting http://www.w3.org/2010/06/02-ssn-minutes.html

<laurent_lefort_cs> Work plan Semantic Markup http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Mark_up

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Mappings_Deliverable

No comments on Semantic Mark up.

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Terminology_and_Term_Provenance_in_the_Ontology

<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: Can we add information saying which part of the ontology a class belongs to (e.g. like a using skos:inScheme) ?

<Payam> +q

<kerry> suggesting use a new annotation property for each "part" of the ontology -- and the annotation property may not be filled in (I'm not sure this quite makes sense)

<kerry> maybe payams is beter

<Payam> a different approach could be annotating new concepts or concepts that have been adapted from other ontologies

<Payam> and preserving namespace for concepts which are directly included from external ontolgies

<kerry> i am not comforatble with "preserving namespace"

<laurent_lefort_cs> Vote on the idea to group things together within the same OWL file:

<laurent_lefort_cs> +1

<kerry> i don't get it either

<kerry> i think we need a worked out proposal before voting on this

<cory> what are the groups?

<kerry> ok

<Payam> question: do we need an annotation?

<michael> +q

<laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: use the reference to the documentation page as the structuring/grouping method

<laurent_lefort_cs> Vote on Michael's proposal:

<laurent_lefort_cs> +1

<kerry> +q

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Terminology_and_Term_Provenance_in_the_Ontology

<Arthur> I like the idea to group concepts inside the owl file, but I am not sure how you would do it. (question to Laurent)

Kerry, using ontology as reference to the wiki when there is no automatic way to do it.

<Payam> +q

Payam, using RDF "seeAlso" to the wiki page.

<Payam> using kerry's proposal: RDF rdfs:comments + RDF rdf:seeAlso to refer to wiki page

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-schema/#ch_utilvocab

<kerry> +q

<michael> +q

<kerry> +q

<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Kerry to add usage of see also in wiki page documenting annotations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-ssn-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-29 - Add usage of see also in wiki page documenting annotations [on Kerry Taylor - due 2010-06-15].

Status/work plan for the Ontology deliverable

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Key_Sensor_Concepts

<Luis_Bermudez> im here

<michael> +q

<Luis_Bermudez> +q

<laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent describing the content of the two pages and the intent to identify the sub-deliverables of the Ontology work packages

<laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: Reminder that figure in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Key_Sensor_Concepts does not reflect exactly the current ontology

Luis, we should have one wiki page where all ontology linked to each other.

<kerry> +q

<Luis_Bermudez> +q

<laurent_lefort_cs> Discussion on how the external ontologies are related to the XG ontology: extensions/examples or mappings

Luis will capture the differences between the ontologies.

<Payam> +q

<Luis_Bermudez> +q

<Payam> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology

Payam, we need to define the terminalogy first then see how it aligns with other ontology.

<Luis_Bermudez> +q

Laurent, we need examples.

<michael> +q

Michael, all these parts are linked together, they belong to the same ontology.

<kerry> this makes a lot of sense to me -- as long as it all stays in the same file at the end

<kerry> i think laurent is also suggesting examples in separate files -- i think we can do this too

<kerry> +q

<kerry> sorry folks -- it can wait

Issue 5-7

<laurent_lefort_cs> ISSUE-5 Separation of examples - Delivery of the SSN XG ontology and of examples in separate files

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/track/issues/5

<laurent_lefort_cs> ISSUE-6 Pub. on ext. web sites - Versions of the SSN ontology published on external web sites

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/track/issues/6

<Payam> +q

<kerry> -kerry

Payam will present group activity next at ICT summit. Please submit any issues to him.

<laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Laurent to define the final place where the XG ontology will be delivered [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-ssn-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-30 - Define the final place where the XG ontology will be delivered [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-06-15].

<laurent_lefort_cs> ISSUE-7 Doc format/generation - Documentation format - Generation of documentation derived from the OWL file

<laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/track/issues/7

AOB

<laurent_lefort_cs> OGC TC Meeting in Silver Spring Luis will be there

<Luis_Bermudez> bye

<laurent_lefort_cs> s/suing/using/

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Kerry to add usage of see also in wiki page documenting annotations [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-ssn-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Laurent to define the final place where the XG ontology will be delivered [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/06/08-ssn-minutes.html#action02]
 
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