WAI-AGE task force

Andrew: EOWG F2F is likely to take place in July in Vienna with ICCHP
... WAI is working on logistics
... please be sure to complete the attendance survey

How People with Disability Use the Web

http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/2009/Overview.html

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/2009/scenarios.html

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/2009/scenarios.html#shopper

Shadi: text has been updated (de-jargonized)

alan: an image would nice

shadi: for some scenarios it will be difficult to find images
... for the future videos would be very nice

<Andrew> william: good to have scenarios that don't include people for whom the web is work

<Andrew> ... and second scenario is just work oriented

<shadi> ACTION: pwd-use-web - shadi - look at past/present tense in scenarios [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-waiage-minutes.html#action01]

Suzette: no indication how to change colors in browsers

michael: link to further reading about browser settings

<Andrew> Alan: and link to Better Web Browsing document

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/2009/browsing#altkeyboard

shadi: we have to update and extend the Better Web Browsing document

<shadi> ACTION: pwd-use-web - shadi - consider "further reading" or similar rather than "sections" (sounds abstract) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-waiage-minutes.html#action02]

<shadi> aa: "related reading"?

<Andrew> william: the average person would be daunted by the things described for Mr Jones
... we're making light of the fact there is quite a bit of work to do - speech recognition + new authoring tool
... scenario makes it seem like a routine thing to do (regardless that it took several months to adapt)

<Andrew> suzette: several adaptations to take in - can we make a list, then say it takes a while to learn

<shadi> ACTION: pwd-use-web - shadi - may want to highlight that CMSs *can* be made keyboard accessible [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-waiage-minutes.html#action03]

<suzette> He uses a combination of technical changes and work-arounds:
... • speech recognition software
... • uses a web browser with full keyboard support that allows him to navigate through websites that are properly coded using the keyboard alone
... • an alternative keyboard with an ergonomic layout
... • he doesn't use a mouse.

<shadi> ACTION: pwd-use-web - shadi - scenario 2 may sound a little too positive (speech recognition as a "magic wand" and CMS workaround not always feasible) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-waiage-minutes.html#action04]

<achuter> maybe "dictation software" in addition to or as alternative to "speech recognition"

<shadi> ACTION: pwd-use-web - shadi - scenario 2 - consider listing the changes and browsing methods that mr jones is using [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/02/24-waiage-minutes.html#action05]

<achuter> "dictation" is narrower in scope than "speech recognition" but easier to understand. It's difficult to explain briefly how speech recognition is used for navigating, but with a narrower scope, "dictation" is easier to understand for most readers as many people without disabilities have used it.

<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/#reporter

Michael: maybe split up the paragraph "unfortunately ..." into 3 parts: ...
... * what is the problem with the cms,
... * how could that be solved (by a proper CMS) and
... * the actual workaround he is using

Web Accessibility Training

http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/training/2009/scenarios.html

<Andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/training/2009/scenarios-tf.html

Michael: prefers format 2

William: prefers format 6

Suzette: prefers tabular version, e.g. 3

Shadi: prefers format 2, but can live with format 3
... the timeline might be confusing
... duration rather than timing

Andrew: best to continue work with format 2 and 3

<achuter> format 2

michael: format 2

<Andrew> william: format 2

<Andrew> shadi: 2

<Andrew> suzette: 3, but could live with 2

<suzette> suzette: asked about screen reader users

<suzette> shadi: structure should be presented

<Andrew> shadi: represent Format 2 structure with a DL or with H4s

<Andrew> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/training/2009/scenarios.html

Andrew: will be restructured in one of those formats later on

<Andrew> Andrew: consider Eg1

Suzette: very ambitious for 20 min

<Andrew> william: can't do BAD in 3 mins

Michael: i would skip #6

<Andrew> michael: would drop 6 (resources)

Shadi: would not present the Demo in a short introduction
... would take too much time

Outline should be following the three bullets of "The audience will ..."