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<trackbot> Date: 30 September 2009
<John_Boyer> scribe: Erik
<John_Boyer> scribenick: ebruchez
<John_Boyer> Chair: John
<John_Boyer> back home now ... we'll see how it goes
<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-all.html
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html
<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html
<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#expr
John: Not many diff marks. There is now a mention that XPath 2.0 support is expected. SOAP-related references. inputmode tokens are case-insensitive.
Steven: Why is modularization in the normative section?
John: Because we use the Modularization syntax style
Steven: Ok there is a normative aspect to it.
<nick> E.5 Examples is next change
<John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#mode-syntax
John: Section E.1 about inputmode
now specifies tokens are case-insensitive.
... In E.3.1, there is a minor cosmetic change
(non-diff-marked).
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-basic-20090916/#s_inputmodesyntax
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-basic-20090916/#s_inputmode-examples
<scribe> ACTION: John to put the proper example for E.5 in future version of the spec. http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-xhtml-basic-20090916/#s_inputmode-examples [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-forms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
John: In section F, we now have the link to the RNG schema.
Steven: What about the list of current participants?
<Steven> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=32219
<klotz> http://www.relaxng.org/spec-20011203.html
<klotz> http://www.relaxng.org/compact-20021121.html
John: I will update the text to reflect that it is a list of participants, not necessarily current, and a couple of details.
RESOLUTION: We send the version containing the minor changes John is about to make to Rec.
John: The rec version will have a
link to an empty errata page.
... Member companies should produce testimonials.
... Members can send them to public-forms?
Steven: That will be fine.
John: We need them within the next week.
Steven: There was a positive public comment in the votes from the University of Amsterdam, we can ask them as well.
<Steven> I've sent them a mail
John: Issue sent by Joern: "Test 5.1.b - validity of normalizedString and token".
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0008.html
<Steven> Just in - CWI is interested in giving a testimonial
Nick: (discusses)
John: I can't see in the spec anything that corroborates what's in the book Joern is quoting.
<scribe> ACTION: Erik and John to investigate question of xsd:normalizedString and xsd:token validation. Erik will ask Eric van der Vlist's opinion. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0008.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-forms-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-569 - And John to investigate question of xsd:normalizedString and xsd:token validation. Erik will ask Eric van der Vlist's opinion. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0008.html [on Erik Bruchez - due 2009-10-07].
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0014.html
John: These changes would make it a more reasonable test.
<John_Boyer> change navindex in test 8.1.a
<scribe> ACTION: John to make navindex changes to test 8.1.a as per suggestions in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0014.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
<John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0010.html
<nick> sorry to interrupt again, but found what I was looking for related to the xsd:normalizedString and xsd:token http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-xmlschema-1-20041028/structures.html#d0e1654
Erik: So the spec actually says the single-node bindings are required.
John: Yes, except for a few exceptions where they are optional.
<scribe> ACTION: John to change these tests to have single-node bindings. See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2009Sep/0010.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-forms-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
Nick: I found some information about xsd:normalizedString and xsd:token validation. Should we discuss now?
John: Sure.
... It's still unclear, so we can stick with the action. Thanks
for pointing this out.
John: We can discuss external models next week. Erik, can you get a refresh on Custom XPath Functions to discuss next week?
Erik: Sure.
John: Was JSON submission discussed?
Leigh: Yes, we discussed with Kenneth. There are two JSON-XML transformations mentioned by Kenneth. He should send this to us.
<nick> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-xmlschema11-1-20090430/#sec-wsnormalization (3.1.4 White Space Normalization during Validation in W3C XML Schema Definition Language (XSD) 1.1 is more clear, it is a Déjà vu, walking the same path as half a year ago)
Leigh: Lots of web authors just want easy JavaScript access to data model. We could have a good JS API to access an XML data model, and conversely allow XPath access to JSON. We would refer to an external specification, not build this into XForms.
<nick> (Erik worth reading before sending your e-mail)
John: "submission to a "new" window" is an observation: like xf:load, submission should allow opening content into a new windows.
Steven: It's bad to have two different constructs.
John: Other "issues" with load: it can be used to load "javascript:" constructs. Not sure we can eliminate it in that case.
<Steven> bye
Erik: load is concise, we should not eliminate it, even if it's expressed in terms of submission.
John: Do other implementations support the javascript: URLs?
Erik: Our implementation supports that, but also a separate <script> element.
Nick: Chiba too.
Erik: I think it's ok to support javascript: since HTML authors are familiar with it.
Nick: There is also the data: URL.
John: If everything goes well, XForms 1.1 will be behind us next week and we can tackle all those issues.
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