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<DanC> some part of the processing chain for http://www.w3.org/html/wg/href/draft-ietf.html put an incorrect charset decl
<pimpbot> Title: Web addresses in HTML 5 (at www.w3.org)
<trackbot> Date: 07 May 2009
<rubys> 218.349 is Duluth, Minnesota... Laura?
<scribe> scribe: Julian
rubys: open issues assigned to lachlan; not responding
<DanC> action-103?
<trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Lachlan Hunt to register about: URI scheme -- due 2009-04-09 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/103
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
julian: joseph holsten tried to update the draft but apparently had trouble getting the draft submitted
<DanC> action-103?
<trackbot> ACTION-103 -- Julian Reschke to register about: URI scheme -- due 2009-05-21 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/103
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
julian: new draft seems to normatively reference HML5 which may be a problem.
<DanC> aciton-99?
action-99?
<trackbot> ACTION-99 -- Sam Ruby to review @profile -- due 2009-04-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/99
<pimpbot> Title: ACTION-99 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
<DanC> "scheme" attribute of META element Chabot, Elliot (Wednesday, 6 May) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009May/0009.html
<pimpbot> Title: "scheme" attribute of META element from Chabot, Elliot on 2009-05-06 (public-html-comments@w3.org from May 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
<DanC> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Apr/0208.html
<pimpbot> Title: Please review use cases relating to embedding micro-data in text/html from Ian Hickson on 2009-04-23 (public-html@w3.org from April 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
Julian: doing some work on @profile with leif, currently waiting for Hixie's proposal on microdata
<DanC> issue-55: note summary of micro-data http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Apr/0208.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-55 head/@profile missing, but used in other specifications/formats notes added
<pimpbot> Title: Please review use cases relating to embedding micro-data in text/html from Ian Hickson on 2009-04-23 (public-html@w3.org from April 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
DanC: same issue as microdata?
<DanC> action-99?
<trackbot> ACTION-99 -- Sam Ruby to review @profile -- due 2009-04-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/99
<DanC> action-99 due next week
<trackbot> ACTION-99 Review @profile due date now next week
rubys: push date forward to next
week
... waiting for Hixie's microdate feedback
<Zakim> DanC, you wanted to ask what RDFa stuff was supposed to be done?
action-96?
<trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Henri Sivonen to to ensure editor removes Origin header: from spec -- due 2009-05-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/96
rubys: Henri not available
<DanC> ACTION-96?
<trackbot> ACTION-96 -- Henri Sivonen to to ensure editor removes Origin header: from spec -- due 2009-05-06 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/96
masinter: there was discussion on HTTP-WG mailing list whether Referer could be used instead
<DanC> . http://esw.w3.org/topic/IETF_HTML5_Meeting_March_2009?highlight=(ietf)
rubys: no new information since SFO IETF meeting
<DanC> "# Browser vendors are highly skeptical that that will be sufficient
<DanC> # Action Item: MNot to send a pointer to prior discussion "
<DanC> Sam: I think mnot did that
danc: nobody owns the ball right now
rubys: Henri should own it
MikeSmith: Henri is traveling
rubys: move to next week
<DanC> action-96 due next week
<trackbot> ACTION-96 to ensure editor removes Origin header: from spec due date now next week
masinter: discussion ongoing in TAG
<DanC> ACTION-108 due 7 June
<trackbot> ACTION-108 Report back on the TAG's work on versioning wrt HTML due date now 7 June
danc: proposal to move by two months
issue-31?
<trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent is unknown/unavailable? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
danc: update due dates before telco if there are no news
issue-56?
<trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Assess whether "URLs" section/definition conflicts with Web architecture -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
danc: done with formatting
... done with reformatting
... next step submit as I-D
... is the WG interested in when to submit it?
masinter: the WG isn't needed for the decision
danc: there was discussion in
www-tag
... which mailing list?
... uri mailing list
<DanC> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009Apr/0081.html
danc: HT summarized what
documents are out there
... encoding problem in query parameters
<DanC> Martin's reply discusses the non-western search engine use case http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2009May/0000.html
<DanC> oops... 0001 is the one I meant
<DanC> I expect discussion to converge on uri@w3.org
<DanC> ... though I'm not sure how to get browser vendors there.
<rubys> ACTION: dan to submit id for URLs in HTML 5 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/05/07-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Submit id for URLs in HTML 5 [on Dan Connolly - due 2009-05-14].
issue-41?
<trackbot> ISSUE-41 -- Decentralized extensibility -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/41
rubys: chris not here
<DanC> 114 should be connected to an aria issue... fixing...
action-114?
<trackbot> ACTION-114 -- Cynthia Shelly to report progress on ARIA TF -- due 2009-05-07 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/114
<DanC> good to know, masinter; I'll try to call you
<DanC> ACTION-105 ?
<trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Sam Ruby to should arrange a meeting between chairs of HTML WG and XHTML2 WG to ensure there is a plan for coordination of vocabularies to avoid incompatibilities. -- due 2009-04-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/105
<DanC> ACTION-105 due next week
<trackbot> ACTION-105 Should arrange a meeting between chairs of HTML WG and XHTML2 WG to ensure there is a plan for coordination of vocabularies to avoid incompatibilities. due date now next week
rubys: plh currently not interested discussing merging
masinter: why is RDFa relevant?
<DanC> ACTION-114 due 21 May
<trackbot> ACTION-114 Report progress on ARIA TF due date now 21 May
rubys: if *HTML would be merged, we'd have to figure out what to do with RDFa
masinter: what's the criterium for resolving this?
danc: merged group would need to take XHTML requirements seriously
masinter: some requirements are common, others ...
rubys: we will know soon whether the requirements ARE taken seriously
s(now/khave some good data/
masinter: disposition of comments
on public-html-comments
... are these tracked?
<DanC> . http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/
danc: we let them accumulate
rubys: do we need an issue tracker?
danc: anybody can respond
... tracking gets more important when we get to the end
rubys: Hickson is reading all of them
<DanC> (process calls for timely technical response? really?)
masinter: issues with Ian's
process
... ...schedule-wise...
rubys: can accelerate for specific issues
<DanC> "The group SHOULD reply to a reviewer's initial comments in a timely manner." -- http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/policies.html#formal-address
danc: we could do better
... discussion of "author" stylesheet
s/uathor/author/
Matt: groups take each other seriously, but disagree on what is important
masinter: need priorization of
requirements
... can agree on technical solutions even when disgagreeing on
ther things
<Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say that Hixie's mechanism for displaying author-only view of draft does work as expected (in browsers that support user stylesheet switching)
<DanC> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html
MikeSmith: user stylesheet should work in W3C version of the spec as well
<DanC> i can't get it to work at http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/
<rubys> action mike to make author guide user stylesheet work with the W3C version of the spec as well
<trackbot> Created ACTION-122 - Make author guide user stylesheet work with the W3C version of the spec as well [on Michael(tm) Smith - due 2009-05-14].
<MikeSmith> it works in Minefield and Opera for me
works for me in W3C copy
<DanC> close ACTION-118
<trackbot> ACTION-118 Reformat the document on URLs in HTML 5 as an Internet Draft closed
<DanC> ACTION-115?
<trackbot> ACTION-115 -- Michael(tm) Smith to set up WBS for HTML WG participants to @@ reTPAC 2009 -- due 2009-05-28 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/115
danc: if the meeting is criticial we should make sure administrivia are taken care of
<Laura> Laura is 349.aabb
<Laura> +Laura_Carlson
<billyjackass> action-122 comment: it already works in the W3C version as well
<billyjackass> comment action-122: it already works in the W3C version as well
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