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<scribe> Scribe: raphael
<scribe> scribenick: raphael
<silvia> Zakim mute me
Proposed to accept te minutes of April 8, http://www.w3.org/2009/04/08-mediafrag-minutes.html
<erik> +1
Propose to accept the minutes of the f2f meeting: http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-mediafrag-minutes.html and http://www.w3.org/2009/04/17-mediafrag-minutes.html
RESOLUTION: all minutes approved
<mhausenblas> +1+1
<silvia> +1
<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to comment on ACTION-65
Next f2f meeting in September, possibly in Amsterdam, on 17-18/09
I have re-issued the transition request
scribe: I'm waiting for
Philippe's yes
... before splitting the document and advertizing the other
groups to review our document
close ACTON-51
close ACTION-51
<trackbot> ACTION-51 Summarize the content of the wiki page to put in the main document, with few examples and a short story closed
<scribe> done just before the F2F meeting
Yves: will do my action in the next 2 weeks
<Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to comment on structure of the WD
Erik: regarding action-67, I will provide an example
Michael: I want to talk about
action-64
... I want to change the structure of this sub-section, this is
the processing model
... and discuss what's happen on the UA side, and on the server
side
Raphael: +1 for Michael's suggestion for the next iteration of the WD
<silvia> so the suggestion is to rename 6.4 to Processing?
<erik> +1 for next iteration
<mhausenblas> 6.4 -> Interpretation and Processing of MF
<silvia> good, like it
Michael: but not talk about semantics
<mhausenblas> 6.4.1 Overview
+1
<mhausenblas> 6.4.2 UA view
<mhausenblas> 6.4.3 Server
<silvia> +1
Conrad: I hope to complete my actions 63 and 69 later this week
<mhausenblas> Michael: thanks, will do after splitting of docs
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCasesOverview
Actual test cases: http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TestCases
Michael: I motivated first the
need for test cases
... I then provided examples of test cases, these need to be
approved
<mhausenblas> TC setup
Email and issues from Michael: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Apr/0135.html
Raphael: no value means by default for the temporal dimension the start time (end time) of the resource
Yves: empty is different than not present ... i.e. sometimes, the dimension is not present, sometimes we have the default value
Michael: please, review the Test
Cases, edit the wiki, mail the mailing list
... the intention is to go away from the wiki asap
... since it is really painful
ISSUE-3?
<trackbot> ISSUE-3 -- Does our MF URI syntax imply that we need to update MIME Type registrations? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/3
Michael: good news, no IANA registries for fragments on media mime types
<scribe> ACTION: Erik to contact the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the registry of their scheme [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-76 - Contact the editors of MPEG-21 Part 17 regarding the registry of their scheme [on Erik Mannens - due 2009-05-06].
ISSUE-4?
<trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- Should we pre-define some track names? -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/4
Silvia: I still think we need to
pre-define some track names
... I will wait for Conrad's action
... not sure I understant it
ACTION-7?
<trackbot> ACTION-7 -- Yves Lafon to request a new time slot on the Zakim bridge -- due 2008-10-28 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/7
ISSUE-7?
<trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- User Agent Media Fragment Resolution and Processing -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/7
<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution
Raphael: I have finally understood this issue, this is the UA point of view of what's hapening
Michael: regarding the step
2
... I'm referring to Common User Agent Problems
<Yves> foo#bar in a redirect is currently not allowed
Michael: I just write the various
possibilities
... perhaps we should just have the default behavior fallback,
stating that the UA should write valid MF URI
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to investigate what's happened when facing an invalid Media Fragment URI, re step 2 of http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Investigate what's happened when facing an invalid Media Fragment URI, re step 2 of http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/UserAgentMediaFragmentResolution [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-05-06].
<silvia> ok, understood :)
Michael: I will put this description and diagram in the document ... instead of semantics -> processing of the media fragments
ISSUE-8?
<trackbot> ISSUE-8 -- Missing collection of MF WG decisions -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/8
Do we want a wiki page that centralizes all the resolution?
Silvia: I think the issues page barely captures that
Michael: I don't think so
Silvia: the page captures our discussion, but I agree does not endorse the decision
Michael: can we misuse the tracker?
We have resolved all the polls
Michael: I volunteer to maintain this page if chairs create it
trackbot, status?
<scribe> ACTION: Raphaël to draft a wiki page for centralizing all decisions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Draft a wiki page for centralizing all decisions [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2009-05-06].
Michael: any news from the TAG regarding their latest finding, hash in uri?
<mhausenblas> Michael thanks raphael for his great double role in scribing and chairing ;)
Raphael: I will do that later this afternoon
no AOB?
meeting adjourned