W3C

RDF-in-XHTML TF 2008-07-10

10 Jul 2008

Agenda

See also: IRC log, previous 2008-07-03

Attendees

Present
Shane McCarron, Michael Hausenblas, Steven Pemberton, Jeremy Carroll, Manu Sporny, Ben Adida
Regrets
Ralph Swick, Mark Birbeck
Chair
Ben
Scribe
Michael

Contents


 

 

<msporny> heeey, it's Jeremy!

<scribe> ScribeNick: mhausenblas

Action Items

http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Ben to follow up with Elias on JavaScript test harness + EARL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action13] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]

<ShaneM> working onit

<scribe> -- continues

<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Steven migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Manu write haudio examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [CONTINUES]

Manu: Would be good to chat with people about how to design the vocabulary

<benadida> MichaelH: in general, you don't get it right the first time you design a vocab, give it a shot.

JeremyCarroll: Many of our customers want bigger ontologies; think of computational costs
... owl:sameAs is expensive
... make it easier for tools by not expecting inferencing

<Steven> My action is done

<Steven> http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials#vEvent

<scribe> ACTION: [NEW] Steven migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES]

Ben: In future versions RDFa may support sequences as well, worth considering for example in RSS

JeremyCarroll: Shall we write up some examples for RSS?

Michael: see for example http://riese.joanneum.at/updates/

http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials

<scribe> ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12] [CONTINUES]

http://rdfa.info/wiki/RDFa-for-microformats-users

<scribe> ACTION: [PENDING] Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES]

Ben: next week I wont be around

... Manu ok to chair?

Manu: Yes

<Steven> Me regrets for 3 weeks

Michael: Next two telecons regrets as well

CR Comments

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/2

Ben: First comment by Florian

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/121

Ben: I'm ok to clarify and reply

Shane: Just an editorial change - will check
... should mark as resolved

<benadida> PROPOSE: to make small editorial change in response to ISSUE-121 as per Mark's email response to Florian.

+1

<msporny> +1

RESOLUTION: to make small editorial change in response to ISSUE-121 as per Mark's email response to Florian.

<benadida> ACTION: Shane to make ISSUE-121 editorial change and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]

ISSUE-122 by Alan

Alan's comments

Ben: Needs some clarification, but no show-stoppers

Manu: re 'Here there is a question of what "referring" to means.'
... we need to state what we mean

<msporny> crap, lost my VoIP connection

Shane: There might be a risk in clarifying
... what @about is refering to

Ben: Try to catch Alan in Boston and talk with him about this

JeremyCarroll: Pragmatic view is needed here; the abstract one's don't help

Steven: At XTech I saw the semantic search engine's problem with wrong inference

Ben: Steven, saw your proposal re new non-HTTP URI scheme

Steven: but bNodes workaround is fine

<JeremyCarroll> http://larry.masinter.net/duri.html - for steven's attention

Ben: Manu, can you write-up your issues with it?

Manu: yep

<msporny> ACTION: Manu to write up current issues with information resource vs. actual resource with regard to Audio RDF vocabulary. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

Michael: I generally advocate the usage of HTTP URIs.

<benadida> ACTION: Ben to talk to Allan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]

Implementation Report

RDFa Implementation Report

Ben: re Ajax EARL generator

<Zakim> JeremyCarroll, you wanted to ask about TQ's contribution

JeremyCarroll: We at TopQuadrant have an RDFa editor
... we could report on that

Michael: Could you add it to http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tools ?

JeremyCarroll: Reading is out-sourced
... suspect Fabien's XSLT

<benadida> ACTION: Jeremy to write up TQ's contribution for impl report and wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Ben to talk to Allan about CR ISSUE-122 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: Jeremy to write up TQ's contribution for impl report and wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]
[NEW] ACTION: Manu to write up current issues with information resource vs. actual resource with regard to Audio RDF vocabulary. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
[NEW] ACTION: Michael to rewrite and extend http://rdfa.info/wiki/Tutorials for RSS (maybe with seq) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Shane to make ISSUE-121 editorial change and report back [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/10-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Shane to write home page for SPREAD. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to follow up with Elias on JavaScript test harness + EARL [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu write haudio examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/13-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/26-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
 
[DONE] ACTION: Steven migrate VEVENT examples to rdfa.info wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
 
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