W3C

RDF Data Access

4 Apr 2006

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Attendees

Present
Jeen, Libby_Miller, DanC, EliasT, EricP, SteveH, Sven_Groppe
Regrets
KendallC, AndyS, Lee_Feigenbaum, Souri, JosD, Janne, Saarela
Chair
DanC
Scribe
DanC, EricP

Contents


 

 

Convene

<EliasT> Jos also sent regrets.

<ericP> Scribe: DanC

<ericP> Scribe: EricP

PROPOSED: to approve minutes 28 Mar as a true record

<EliasT> second

<DanC> minutes 28 Mar

APPROVED. no abstentions or objections

<DanC> tentative regrets 11 apr for Jeen

PROPOSED: to meet again Tue, 11 Apr 14:30Z

APPROVED. Next meeting Tue, 11 Apr 14:30Z; Libby to scribe

<scribe> ACTION: SergioT to respond to 2005-09-18T15:02:48Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/20050918.110248.43269866.pfps@research.bell-labs.com PFPS's initial mail

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/A021E7C2-C1AC-452E-8937-428A5F37ACEF@inf.unibz.it SergioT's response

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060329.070706.22039557.pfps@research.bell-labs.com PFPS's somewhat reluctant acceptance 29 Mar

action -1

DESCRIBE issue

<DanC> see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#describe 1.672

[around the table on DESCRIBE]

jeen: current text seems fine to me

<EliasT> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#describe

<DanC> PROPOSED: postpone DESCRIBE for reasons given in PatH's message, with text per http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#describe 1.672

libby: asemantics wanted to keep DESCRIBE in. current text is acceptable

DanC: am content with this proposal

EliasT: text is ok. liked some of Bijan's points

ericP: am happy with current text

SteveH: worried about incompatible implementations but not all that bothered

<EliasT> DESCRIBE is currently not constrained at all.

Sven_Groppe: It's OK

<DanC> "This definition intentionally does not prescribe the nature of the relevant information."

EliasT: the RDF graph is not constrained
... I'd like that in the red text

<DanC> "Current conventions for DESCRIBE return an RDF graph that is not constrained at all."

<DanC> "Current conventions for DESCRIBE return an arbitrary RDF graph."

<DanC> "Current conventions for DESCRIBE return an RDF graph without any specified constraints."

<DanC> PROPOSED: postpone DESCRIBE for reasons given in PatH's message, with text per http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#describe 1.672 + "Current conventions for DESCRIBE return an RDF graph without any specified constraints."

<EliasT> second

"Current conventions for DESCRIBE return an RDF graph without any specified constraints."

<DanC> 1.674 $ of $Date: 2006/04/04 14:52:22

<DanC> rationale from Hayes

<DanC> so RESOLVED.

APPROVED. no abstentions or objections

<DanC> danc found some describe tests

<DanC> tests/data/SyntaxDev/Syntax-SPARQL2/syntax-form-describe01.rq stays

<DanC> is this an approved test? tests/data/extracted-examples/query-10.4.1.rq

<DanC> no, it's not approved

Toward CR

<scribe> ACTION: Souri to arrange a phone call with Fred Zemke and interested WG members (Andy + (DanC or EricP)). [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/443153AC.1030802@oracle.comnote regrets from Souri

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/443153AC.1030802@oracle.com note regrets from Souri

action -2

<DanC> notes on Oracle coordination, conversation with Fred Z

<DanC> PROPOSED: to go to CR

<EliasT> second

<DanC> so RESOLVED.

<DanC> CR request, under evaluation

<DanC> DanC intends to update w.r.t. Cerebra objections.

JSON results format

<scribe> ACTION: AndyS to review JSON results draft. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/442BD95F.1020304@hp.com AndyS's review

<DanC> Revision 1.5 2006/03/30 17:39:30 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/json-sparql/

EliasT: I think KendallC has checked in everything.

PROPOSED: to get around to publishing http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/json-sparql/

<SteveH> yes

<DanC> ... with any edits agreed by EricP + Elias

<DanC> so RESOLVED.

no abstentions or objections

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/json-sparql/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

<DanC> no guarantees about timeliness

action -3

action -2

test suite maintenance

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to work on [2006-02-24T08:45:23Z Olivier Corby], potentially automating examples2tests progress, [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/43FEC7A3.6040703@sophia.inria.fr 2006-02-24T08:45:23Z Olivier Corby

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060323163316.GW412@w3.org EricP's announcement

action -5

jeen: results for queries with OPITONALs are incorrectly coded

<scribe> ACTION: EricP and Jeen to fix OPTIONAL coding [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

<DanC> andy's offset tests

<scribe> ACTION: AndyS conjure some LIMIT/OFFSET tests. [DONE] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/44210293.5000605@hp.com announcement

action -7

<scribe> ACTION: DanC to follow up re optional test based on op:dateTime triple [CONTINUED] [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

MIME type registrations

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to follow up on mime type requests (2Mar) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060309080030.GR412@w3.org [Last Call] Registration of media type application/sparql-results+xml

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060309080507.GS412@w3.org [Last Call] Registration of media type application/sparql-query

-> http://www.w3.org/mid/20060309013957.F70758@skutsje.san.webweaving.org Dirk-Willem's response

<DanC> "This has not been reviewed or approved by the RDF Data Access Working Group." -- http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/#mediaType

<DanC> resolved in 2005-07-26 telcon

<scribe> ACTION: EricP to respond to http://www.w3.org/mid/20060309013957.F70758@skutsje.san.webweaving.org [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]

<EliasT> MOTION: ADJOURN

<EliasT> ADJOURN

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/examples-extract.xsl

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: EricP and Jeen to fix OPTIONAL coding [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[NEW] ACTION: EricP to follow up on mime type requests (2Mar) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[NEW] ACTION: EricP to publish http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/json-sparql/ [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[NEW] ACTION: EricP to respond to http://www.w3.org/mid/20060309013957.F70758@skutsje.san.webweaving.org [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
 
[PENDING] ACTION: DanC to follow up re optional test based on op:dateTime triple [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
 
[DONE] ACTION: AndyS conjure some LIMIT/OFFSET tests. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[DONE] ACTION: AndyS to review JSON results draft. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[DONE] ACTION: EricP to work on [2006-02-24T08:45:23Z Olivier Corby], potentially automating examples2tests progress, [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[DONE] ACTION: SergioT to respond to 2005-09-18T15:02:48Z Peter F. Patel-Schneider. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
[DONE] ACTION: Souri to arrange a phone call with Fred Zemke and interested WG members (Andy + (DanC or EricP)). [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/04/04-dawg-irc]
 
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