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This questionnaire was open from 2020-06-30 to 2020-07-10.
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Proposed
Conformance is defined only for Paths. However, a conformance claim may be made to cover one path, a series of paths, or multiple related paths.
Editor's Draft version of Scope (current text that is proposed that we change)
Rationale (from meeting minutes)
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Yes | 7 |
Yes, with changes in comments | 6 |
No | 4 |
Responder | New Proposal for Conformance Scope | Comments |
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Shawn Lauriat | Yes, with changes in comments | (Later) copy edits so that it matches plain language requirements to make this easier to understand. (Also later) supplemental documentation that includes examples of how to define a path as a single full page (similar to WCAG 2.x's conformance claim scope), application functionality, and others. |
Caidin Riley | Yes | |
Bryan Trogdon | Yes | |
John Foliot | No | Object to the use of 'only', as web content can exist without a 'path'. This approach will not scale, and will be difficult for content owners to report Conformance to. Additionally, this TF have already agreed to use the ACT rules format at the atomic level, so Conformance should include both path-based AND atomic rule compliance. |
Charles Adams | Yes, with changes in comments | Peers have suggested changing "only" to something less restrictive. |
Sheri Byrne-Haber | Yes | |
Jake Abma | No | I have not seen any good path, multiple paths to be able to say this should be the only way for a conformance claim. It might even be so that we do not agree on paths and what that actually means / looks like... So, how can we decide already it will be the only way? |
Martin Jameson | Yes | |
Bruce Bailey | Yes, with changes in comments | I think we need to define what we mean by "paths"? Also, why is "Paths" capitalized in first sentence, but not the second? It feels like one of these ideas where everyone thinks we agree what is meant, but still it really should be spelled out in the glossary. |
Detlev Fischer | No | Agree with Bruce that "path" is not clear at the moment. For well defined processes, it seems clear enough that a path leads you from a certain point (say, a shopping cart) to an endpoint (purchase completed) but for other less constrained content, I fear that the concept of "path" could be interpreted as "there is one way to get to the end result which is accessible" while others are not, so it reminds me of the back door situation. "Path" also seems a poor fit for the scoping of sets of pages with no clear process aspect, as you often have in information-oriented sites (say, your typical city, regional or municipality website). So I am not dead against paths, I just feel it is not a good fit for many sites and in turn scoping scenarios. "Path" should be an optional scoping construct for sequential / and or dynamic content. Even for highly dynamic sites, the concept of page (including states on the page - think of a product page with customer reviews) is still a valid concept that would work better without forcing it into a path model. |
Jeremy Sydik | Yes | |
Angela Hooker | Yes | |
Jennison Asuncion | Yes, with changes in comments | Agree with Shawn's proposed changes. |
Frederick Boland | Yes, with changes in comments | Need to define path |
Jeanne F Spellman | Yes | I would note that we need a definition for Path because "path" in this case does not have a commonly accepted meaning that could be put into plain language. |
Judy Brewer | No | No, because: - The proposed restriction to paths does not clearly match the situations in the draft version of the conformance scope ("An organization or author who want to make an conformance claim can select a logical sub-section of the site, application, or product.") - It is possible if not even likely that some content on websites will occur outside of paths or sub-sections of a site, yes the exclusionary approach does not seem to accommodate that likelihood; - No definition is provided for "path"; - The rationale provided seems to be a rationale for why to allow conformance claims to apply to paths; however, no rationale is provided for why to exclude non-path content of websites. - As proposed, this proposed conformance scope could have the effect of substantially limiting the percentage of a website to which a conformance claim could apply, making WCAG 3.0 less relevant, or irrelevant to, a substantial portion of a website, and reducing incentives for comprehensive accessibility implementation across a website. |
Julia Chen | Yes, with changes in comments | Not just for paths: 1. Component 2. Page and screens 3. Paths (or user journey or user flow) |
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