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This questionnaire was open from 2020-10-19 to 2020-10-26.
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This is a survey for the WAI Curricula Task Force to discuss changes based on EOWG's Monkey Review survey.
Preview with proposed changes is at: https://deploy-preview-273--wai-curricula.netlify.com/curricula/developing-accessible-content/
Please go through the following questions and provide any specific feedback you have, especially if you don't agree with the proposed changes.
Remember: These are the proposed changes based on EOWG's Monkey Review.
Next step is to bring the whole curriculum back to EOWG for Butterfly Approval (Approval to publish) survey, once we refine the proposed changes within the Task Force.
Responder | Comments |
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Daniel Montalvo | Resource editor. |
Gerhard Nussbaum | |
Dónal Fitzpatrick | |
David Sloan |
The following is a list of general changes based on EOWG's Monkey Review.
Responder | Comments |
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Daniel Montalvo | |
Gerhard Nussbaum | I'm ok with the changes. |
Dónal Fitzpatrick | I think these additions add clarity to the material and thus I agree. |
David Sloan | I agree with removing "optional" from "optional topics". But I'm uncomfortable with the phrase "Topics to achieve the learning outcomes". I propose a rewording "Topics to support students in achieving the learning outcomes" Rationale: It's students who achieve learning outcomes, not topics. I agree with the change from "Short answer questions" to "Practical" |
The following is a list of added or reworded learning outcomes based on EOWG's Monkey Review.
Responder | Comments |
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Daniel Montalvo | |
Gerhard Nussbaum | I'm ok with these changes. |
Dónal Fitzpatrick | I agree with the additions. |
David Sloan | I agree with the edits with the following exceptions: Module 2: I'm unclear what "identify and code appropriate keyboard controls for interactive menus" refers to. "Controls" could mean individual interactive items in a menu. I think what we are referring to is "code appropriate keyboard operation for interactive menus"? This would align more closely with the third LO for the Fly-out menu topics. Module 4 Topic Simple Tables: I'm confused by the definition of a simple table as one with only one row or column header. That sounds like a list rather than a table. I wonder if what we mean is that a simple table has "one row or column of headers"? Module 4 Topic Complex Tables: Related to the previous comment, i suggest complex tables are those that contain "multiple rows and/or columns of headers". Module 5 Topic Form Instructions: I'm confused by the word "consolidate", so this learning outcome is unclear to me. I'm not sure what change to address until I better understand what kind of requirements are being referred to. Module 6 Topic Keyboard and Focus Management: I suggest a slight rewording: "summarize related requirements for designers to provide different choices for users when selecting options in complex widgets, such as refining a set of search results" |
The following is a list of added ideas to assess knowledge based on EOWG's Monkey Review.
Responder | Comments |
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Daniel Montalvo | |
Gerhard Nussbaum | I'm ok with the changes. Table navigation with screenreaders is a bit comprehensive - but it's good to know for understanding tables. |
Dónal Fitzpatrick | I think these additions are excellent and could easily envisage including them in various modules of the degree programmes on which I teach. |
David Sloan | I agree with all the proposed additions/edits with the following exceptions: [Module 4] -- Clarifying assessment for module: I'm unclear about this text "they are asked to use an accessibility evaluation extension to provide all table header and data cells they have found". An accessibility evaluation tool would find and identify header and data cells, but would not provide them, so should the text be edited to reflect this? [Module 4] -- Added idea to assess knowledge for module: Suggest rewording last sentence of practical description to: "Assess students’ knowledge of mechanisms of assistive technologies to move through table content and between tables." [Module 5] [Topic Time Limits] - Suggest extending the description to encourage students to evaluate the *quality* of the solution (i.e. go beyond identifying that the mechanisms exist, but assess how well they meet accessibility requirements. This could for example include poorly implemented timeout warning dialogs) [Module 6] [Topic Focus and Keyboard Management] Suggest rephrasing "Students are asked to provide all the possible values for the `tabindex` element". Tabindex can take a large number of values, but all but two ("0" and "-1") are unhelpful for accessibility. So the exercise should focus on the *meaningful* values, not all possible values? Also, in this sentence, replace "element" with "attribute". |
The following is a list of added or reworded teaching ideas based on EOWG's thorough review feedback.
Responder | Comments |
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Daniel Montalvo | |
Gerhard Nussbaum | I'm ok with the changes. |
Dónal Fitzpatrick | Whilst I generally agree with these additions I feel that some more thought needs to go into the recommendations in respect of bullet-point 1 above. If the summary is obsolete, should it be included at all? If we are noting its obsolescence, should the bullet point then also include recommendations for its replacement with newer techniques. |
David Sloan | I agree with these additions, with one additional thought: [Module 6] [Topic Accessible Names and Descriptions] I wonder if it would also be appropriate for the exercise to include how different AT announces the same coding patterns, to show how there might be differences there too? |
Please provide any other additional comments or suggestions you may have before bringing the curriculum back to the whole EOWG for Butterfly Approval (Approval to publish) survey.
Responder | Comments |
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Daniel Montalvo | |
Gerhard Nussbaum | |
Dónal Fitzpatrick | Please be aware that I have joined this discussion somewhat later in this process, therefore if any point made herein has been discussed and/or decided previously then I am happy for any of these observations to be ignored. It is not my intention to re-visit old ground. |
David Sloan | The curriculum description is looking great! I have one other suggestion: In the Developing Accessible Content introduction page, I suggest one rewording: Previous wording: "This curriculum results in courses that: Suggested wording: "This curriculum guides the creation of courses that:" |
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