W3C

Site Navigation

Nearby

Results of Questionnaire EOWG Weekly Survey - 7 August 2015

The results of this questionnaire are available to anybody. In addition, answers are sent to the following email addresses: shawn@w3.org,shadi@w3.org,kevin@w3.org

This questionnaire was open from 2015-08-07 to 2015-08-13.

15 answers have been received.

Jump to results for question:

  1. Tips - Changes for review
  2. Tips - Developing Examples
  3. Tips - Designing - Alternative Text Tip
  4. Tips - Developing Tip on CAPTCHA

1. Tips - Changes for review

We made the following changes to the Tips pages last week:

  1. Designing Tips - Headings Tip - minor tweaks to the example (GitHub #107)
  2. Writing Tips - Added tip for writing instructions (GitHub #114)
  3. Developing Tips - Removed 'validation' and 'compatibility' tips (GitHub #118)
  4. Developing Tips - Replaced 'progressive enhancement', 'responsive design', and 'resize text' tips with 'adaptive approach' tip (GitHub 8a46af3)
  5. Developing Tips - reordered them (GitHub #67)

If you disagree or want to comment on any of the changes, please use the GitHub links above (or you can comment in this survey, or raise a new issue in GitHub).

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
I'm OK with these changes. 12
I put comments in GitHub. 1
I put comments below.
I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it]
I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it. 2

Details

Responder Tips - Changes for reviewComments
George Heake I'm OK with these changes.
Andrew Arch I'm OK with these changes.
Reinaldo Ferraz I'm OK with these changes.
Paul Schantz I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Anna Belle Leiserson I'm OK with these changes.
Lydia Harkey I'm OK with these changes.
Howard Kramer I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Shadi Abou-Zahra I'm OK with these changes. I added some minor suggestions for consideration to GitHub, but I'm also OK with the changes as they currently are.
David Berman I'm OK with these changes.
Brent Bakken I'm OK with these changes.
Vicki Menezes Miller I'm OK with these changes.
Sharron Rush I'm OK with these changes.
Shawn Lawton Henry I put comments in GitHub.
James Green I'm OK with these changes.
Jonathan Metz I'm OK with these changes.

2. Tips - Developing Examples

Please review the examples in the Developing Tips. Keep in mind that for some people examples are very helpful, and for some people they add clutter or distract from the main text.

For each tip, consider: Does the example support the tip sufficiently? Is there a better example? How can the example be made more clear or more simple?

Under each example is a link to the related GitHub issue where you can put any comments (or, if you're not comfortable with GitHub, you can put comments below). If a GitHub issue is closed, feel free to reopen it if you have comments.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub. 6
I reviewed the examples and put my comments below. 2
I reviewed the examples and have no comments to add
I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it] 2
I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it. 3

(2 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Tips - Developing ExamplesComments
George Heake I reviewed the examples and put my comments below. I think the examples are listed in such a way, a user can pick what category or topic they want to "dive" into. I also believe all the examples support the tips. I don't think you could more simple then they are right now.
Andrew Arch
Reinaldo Ferraz I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub.
Paul Schantz I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Anna Belle Leiserson I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub.
Lydia Harkey I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub.
Howard Kramer I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Shadi Abou-Zahra I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub. Excellent work, coming along *really* nicely!
David Berman I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Brent Bakken I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub.
Vicki Menezes Miller I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it] I'm sorry I couldn't get to this.
Sharron Rush
Shawn Lawton Henry I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it]
James Green I reviewed the examples and put my comments below. I am not comfortable with the umbrella image alt text, i think it's way too subjective and may just confuse people. I do like the examples in Designing.
Jonathan Metz I reviewed the examples and put my comments in GitHub.

3. Tips - Designing - Alternative Text Tip

summary | by responder | by choice

Based on EOWG input and further consideration, we propose including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text. Note that while some people do not think alt text should be in Designing, other feel strongly that it should. We're therefore asking if you would be OK with including it (even if it's not your preference) or if you object.

Please review the updated tip and examples at: Providing alternative text for images and add any comments into GitHub #78 (or, if you're not comfortable with GitHub, you can put comments below).

Check a box in both the first section "Include it?:" and the second "Review:".

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text. 7
Include it?: I'm OK with including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text. 3
Include it?: I object to including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Review: I reviewed the tip and have no comments to add. 3
Review: I reviewed the tip and put my comments in GitHub. 2
Review: I reviewed the tip and put my comments below.
Review: I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it]
Review: I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it. 2

Skip to view by choice.

View by responder

Details

Responder Tips - Designing - Alternative Text TipComments
George Heake
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Andrew Arch
Reinaldo Ferraz
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Paul Schantz
  • Review: I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Anna Belle Leiserson
  • Include it?: I'm OK with including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Lydia Harkey
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Howard Kramer
  • Review: I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
Shadi Abou-Zahra
  • Review: I reviewed the tip and put my comments in GitHub.
 I strongly dislike adding this same tip to all three pages "writing", "designing", and "developing" - this is really sending out the wrong message about accessibility, though I do agree that 1.1.1 is a very central accessibility requirement. I don't have a good suggestion for addressing this issue.
David Berman
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
  • Review: I reviewed the tip and put my comments in GitHub.
Brent Bakken
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
  • Review: I reviewed the tip and have no comments to add.
Vicki Menezes Miller
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
  • Review: I reviewed the tip and have no comments to add.
Sharron Rush
  • Include it?: I'm OK with including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
  • Review: I reviewed the tip and have no comments to add.
Shawn Lawton Henry
  • Include it?: I'm OK with including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
James Green
  • Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Jonathan Metz

View by choice

ChoiceResponders
Include it?: I support including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
  • George Heake
  • Reinaldo Ferraz
  • Lydia Harkey
  • David Berman
  • Brent Bakken
  • Vicki Menezes Miller
  • James Green
Include it?: I'm OK with including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
  • Anna Belle Leiserson
  • Sharron Rush
  • Shawn Lawton Henry
Include it?: I object to including in Tips on Designing a tip on alt text.
Review: I reviewed the tip and have no comments to add.
  • Brent Bakken
  • Vicki Menezes Miller
  • Sharron Rush
Review: I reviewed the tip and put my comments in GitHub.
  • Shadi Abou-Zahra
  • David Berman
Review: I reviewed the tip and put my comments below.
Review: I have not gotten to this yet, and will do it by: [put in the Comment field the date by which you will get to it]
Review: I'm not going to be able to get to this, and I will pass on commenting on it.
  • Paul Schantz
  • Howard Kramer

4. Tips - Developing Tip on CAPTCHA

summary | by responder | by choice

In EOWG's rating of Tips to include in Developing, there was split rating on including the tip on CAPTCHA. It would be helpful to have your additional thoughts on why this tip should be included or not.

Please indicate your position below and add your thoughts on why in GitHub #159 (or, if you're not comfortable with GitHub, you can put comments below).

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA. 6
I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA. 5
I don't know; I'm happy to go with the Group's decision. 4
I mildly think we should not include a tip in CAPTCHA.
I strongly think we should not include a tip in CAPTCHA. 1
Comments: I added comments in GitHub or below. 2

Skip to view by choice.

View by responder

Details

Responder Tips - Developing Tip on CAPTCHAComments
George Heake
  • I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
 Besides thinking it is very important of both design and development, it also important build awareness in the area of accessible CAPTCHA's. Although it seems that we see more accessible CAPTCHA's, there is still a long way to go.
Andrew Arch
  • I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
 most instances are very problematic from both an accessibility and usability perspective
Reinaldo Ferraz
  • I don't know; I'm happy to go with the Group's decision.
Paul Schantz
  • I don't know; I'm happy to go with the Group's decision.
Anna Belle Leiserson
  • I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
 As a developer, I would love to be able to point stakeholders pressuring me to use CAPTCHAs to easy-to-understand reasoning about if/when/how to use and code CAPTCHAs.
Lydia Harkey
  • I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
Howard Kramer
Shadi Abou-Zahra
  • I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
 I really like the way it is phrased right now, which also matches the WCAG WG position and general consensus - it is not "forbidden" but not encouraged - good tip to know when starting off with accessibility!
David Berman
  • I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
Brent Bakken
  • I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • Comments: I added comments in GitHub or below.
 Even if reCAPTCHA and No CAPTCHA are slowly gaining ground, CAPTCHA will still be used for quite some time. I believe the Pro argument Kevin stated about "massive impact" is reason for it to be called out in our Tips for Developing.
Vicki Menezes Miller
  • I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
Sharron Rush
  • I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • I don't know; I'm happy to go with the Group's decision.
Shawn Lawton Henry
  • I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • I don't know; I'm happy to go with the Group's decision.
James Green
  • I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
Jonathan Metz
  • I strongly think we should not include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • Comments: I added comments in GitHub or below.
 I think CAPTCHA is fundamentally flawed, and merely mentioning it endorses the possibility of it's use. I think web developers should cease using this technology. Suggesting developers use an accessible alternative to CAPTCHA is like suggesting using an accessible alternative to Flash. In short, not using it would be the accessible alternative. My .02.

View by choice

ChoiceResponders
I strongly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • George Heake
  • Andrew Arch
  • Anna Belle Leiserson
  • Lydia Harkey
  • Shadi Abou-Zahra
  • James Green
I mildly think we should include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • David Berman
  • Brent Bakken
  • Vicki Menezes Miller
  • Sharron Rush
  • Shawn Lawton Henry
I don't know; I'm happy to go with the Group's decision.
  • Reinaldo Ferraz
  • Paul Schantz
  • Sharron Rush
  • Shawn Lawton Henry
I mildly think we should not include a tip in CAPTCHA.
I strongly think we should not include a tip in CAPTCHA.
  • Jonathan Metz
Comments: I added comments in GitHub or below.
  • Brent Bakken
  • Jonathan Metz

More details on responses

  • George Heake: last responded on 12, August 2015 at 11:49 (UTC)
  • Andrew Arch: last responded on 12, August 2015 at 12:09 (UTC)
  • Reinaldo Ferraz: last responded on 12, August 2015 at 14:09 (UTC)
  • Paul Schantz: last responded on 12, August 2015 at 19:52 (UTC)
  • Anna Belle Leiserson: last responded on 12, August 2015 at 20:30 (UTC)
  • Lydia Harkey: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 00:58 (UTC)
  • Howard Kramer: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 03:29 (UTC)
  • Shadi Abou-Zahra: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 14:27 (UTC)
  • David Berman: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 17:48 (UTC)
  • Brent Bakken: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 20:00 (UTC)
  • Vicki Menezes Miller: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 20:24 (UTC)
  • Sharron Rush: last responded on 13, August 2015 at 21:03 (UTC)
  • Shawn Lawton Henry: last responded on 14, August 2015 at 02:01 (UTC)
  • James Green: last responded on 14, August 2015 at 02:26 (UTC)
  • Jonathan Metz: last responded on 14, August 2015 at 04:36 (UTC)

Non-responders

The following persons have not answered the questionnaire:

  1. Eric Velleman
  2. Sylvie Duchateau
  3. Kazuhito Kidachi
  4. Jedi Lin
  5. David Sloan
  6. Mary Jo Mueller
  7. Bill Kasdorf
  8. Cristina Mussinelli
  9. Kevin White
  10. Kevin Rydberg
  11. Adina Halter
  12. Denis Boudreau
  13. Laura Keen
  14. Sarah Pulis
  15. Bill Tyler
  16. Gregorio Pellegrino
  17. Ruoxi Ran
  18. Jennifer Chadwick
  19. Sean Kelly
  20. Muhammad Saleem
  21. Sarah Lewthwaite
  22. Daniel Montalvo
  23. Mark Palmer
  24. Jade Matos Carew
  25. Sonsoles López Pernas
  26. Greta Krafsig
  27. Jason McKee
  28. Jayne Schurick
  29. Billie Johnston
  30. Michele Williams
  31. Shikha Nikhil Dwivedi
  32. Brian Elton
  33. Julianna Rowsell
  34. Tabitha Mahoney
  35. Fred Edora
  36. Rabab Gomaa
  37. Marcelo Paiva
  38. Eloisa Guerrero
  39. Leonard Beasley
  40. Frankie Wolf
  41. Supriya Makude
  42. Aleksandar Cindrikj
  43. Angela Young

Send an email to all the non-responders.

Compact view of the results / list of email addresses of the responders

WBS home / Questionnaires / WG questionnaires / Answer this questionnaire

Report issues on GitHub project w3c/wbs-design or by mail to sysreq.