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Results of Questionnaire Miscellaneous Survey for August 25th 2015

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This questionnaire was open from 2015-08-22 to 2015-10-01.

10 answers have been received.

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  1. Issue 113: Incorrect ARIA Landmark example
  2. Issue 111: Example not accessible
  3. Issue 107: SC 2.1.1: These two advisory techniques are not applicable
  4. Issue 105: 1.2.2 and 1.2.4 Non-Vocal Music Captioning Requirements
  5. Issue 71: C31:Using percent for font sizes

1. Issue 113: Incorrect ARIA Landmark example

Please review the following GitHub issue response: Issue 113.

The link above references the specific comment containing the proposal, but feel free to review the discussion within the issue page.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept as proposed 7
Accept with the following changes 1
Do not accept at this time 1

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Issue 113: Incorrect ARIA Landmark example
Michael Elledge
Andrew Kirkpatrick Accept as proposed Agree to run by PF but also think that we can make this fix in the meantime and then update the technique again with any new or additional information. As written the technique is somewhat controversial, but we can get the main point of the technique across and remove the controversial aspect at the same time.
Makoto Ueki Accept as proposed
Bruce Bailey Accept as proposed Since the proposal is to remove one side of an “or” -- do we really need to wait on PF?
Joshue O'Connor Accept as proposed
Adam Solomon Accept with the following changes 1. should make the update to the example code on a div outside the form
2. Should leave out the text explanation of:
"The "search" role should be put on a div containing the form, or a div just inside the form, but not on the form element itself (because overriding the native semantics of existing HTML elements is not recommended)."
unless we have some (even minimal) evidence that there is an adverse effect or if it is specifically stated in a standard that this is not preferable.
3. Run it by the PF
Marc Johlic Accept as proposed
James Nurthen Do not accept at this time I don't see a problem with role=search on a form. It seems any change we make actually makes things worse.
David MacDonald Accept as proposed put it on the surrounding <div>
Laura Carlson Accept as proposed The response seems okay to me but it can't hurt running it past PF as Michael suggested.
https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/113#issuecomment-133468810

2. Issue 111: Example not accessible

Please review the following GitHub issue response: Issue 111.

The link above references the specific comment containing the proposal, but feel free to review the discussion within the issue page.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept as proposed 9
Accept with the following changes
Do not accept at this time

(1 response didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Issue 111: Example not accessible
Michael Elledge
Andrew Kirkpatrick Accept as proposed
Makoto Ueki Accept as proposed
Bruce Bailey Accept as proposed
Joshue O'Connor Accept as proposed
Adam Solomon Accept as proposed
Marc Johlic Accept as proposed
James Nurthen Accept as proposed
David MacDonald Accept as proposed
Laura Carlson Accept as proposed

3. Issue 107: SC 2.1.1: These two advisory techniques are not applicable

Please review the following GitHub issue response: Issue 107.

The link above references the specific comment containing the proposal, but feel free to review the discussion within the issue page.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept as proposed 8
Accept with the following changes
Do not accept at this time

(2 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)

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Responder Issue 107: SC 2.1.1: These two advisory techniques are not applicable
Michael Elledge
Andrew Kirkpatrick Accept as proposed
Makoto Ueki Accept as proposed
Bruce Bailey Accept as proposed I am not clear what change is being proposed, but I don't want to hang this up.
Joshue O'Connor Accept as proposed
Adam Solomon I see Sailesh's point, but Jonathan is correct that people will simply not see it if it is mapped to the main criterion, and therefore we should leave it where it is.
Marc Johlic Accept as proposed
James Nurthen Accept as proposed
David MacDonald Accept as proposed
Laura Carlson Accept as proposed I'm okay with the response. I wonder though if it would help if Sailesh knew of the wider plan for "future links" in the response? It may all shake out after the "future link" issue (#91) is resolved.
https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/91#issuecomment-132270267

4. Issue 105: 1.2.2 and 1.2.4 Non-Vocal Music Captioning Requirements

Please review the following GitHub issue response: Issue 105.

The link above references the specific comment containing the proposal, but feel free to review the discussion within the issue page.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept as proposed 6
Accept with the following changes 1
Do not accept at this time

(3 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Issue 105: 1.2.2 and 1.2.4 Non-Vocal Music Captioning Requirements
Michael Elledge
Andrew Kirkpatrick Accept as proposed agreeing that we think these would be good new techniques.
Makoto Ueki Accept as proposed It might be helpful, especially for translations of this document, to have a note which reads "Note: The style guide for captions may differ among different langauges."

In Japan, we still don't have any standardized style guide for captions though. For example, TV stations have their own style guides.
Bruce Bailey Accept with the following changes I think the sentence is a bit of run-on. So I have editorial suggestions:

An orchestra provides <INS>for</INS> Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) captioning of each real-time Web performance<DEL>, which</DEL><INS>. The CART service</INS> captures lyrics and dialog <DEL>verbatim</DEL> as well as identifies non-vocal music by title, movement, composer, and any information that will help the user comprehend the nature of the audio.
Joshue O'Connor Accept as proposed
Adam Solomon
Marc Johlic Accept as proposed
James Nurthen
David MacDonald Accept as proposed
Laura Carlson Accept as proposed I added a note per Makoto's great suggestion to read:

"Note: style guides for captions may differ among different languages."

I agree with Bruce's suggestions. It would make it clearer. I updated the text to read:

"An orchestra provides Communication Access Realtime Translation (CART) captioning of each real-time Web performance. The CART service captures lyrics and dialog as well as identifies non-vocal music by title, movement, composer, and any information that will help the user comprehend the nature of the audio."

Thanks!

5. Issue 71: C31:Using percent for font sizes

Please review the following GitHub issue response: Issue 71.

The link above references the specific comment containing the proposal, but feel free to review the discussion within the issue page.

Summary

ChoiceAll responders
Results
Accept as proposed 5
Accept with the following changes 2
Do not accept at this time

(3 responses didn't contain an answer to this question)

Details

Responder Issue 71: C31:Using percent for font sizes
Michael Elledge
Andrew Kirkpatrick
Makoto Ueki Accept as proposed
Bruce Bailey Accept with the following changes Strike the bold “very” -- it just seems inconsistent with other technics. Or maybe explain a bit more why it is very important and not just important? Or maybe provide strong emphasis on a whole key sentence?
Joshue O'Connor Accept as proposed
Adam Solomon
Marc Johlic Accept as proposed
James Nurthen Accept with the following changes Can someone explain the rationale behind this technique? Why doesn't it allow pt font sizes or rems too.
David MacDonald Accept as proposed
Laura Carlson Accept as proposed

More details on responses

  • Michael Elledge: last responded on 24, August 2015 at 20:59 (UTC)
  • Andrew Kirkpatrick: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 05:03 (UTC)
  • Makoto Ueki: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 11:48 (UTC)
  • Bruce Bailey: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 13:13 (UTC)
  • Joshue O'Connor: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 14:02 (UTC)
  • Adam Solomon: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 14:21 (UTC)
  • Marc Johlic: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 14:41 (UTC)
  • James Nurthen: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 15:44 (UTC)
  • David MacDonald: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 15:53 (UTC)
  • Laura Carlson: last responded on 25, August 2015 at 16:44 (UTC)

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